Jack, I do indeed think that I also will not be able to easily convince friends to use darktable. As an amateur, my reason for trying to use dt has to do with the subscription model that is being established more and more by software publishers. Not only by Adobe, also Microsoft does that with Office 365. So you might convince your friends as follows.
“If you don't want to be held in hostage financially with your own collection of photos in the catalog, you should consider leaving Lightroom. Because you cannot control the price and the easiness of access to your own work in the catalog.” Furthermore, I don't really trust Capture One in that area either. There is speculation that they also may apply a subscription only model in the future. But otherwise you have to warn your friends that the threshold for learning dt is high. Lightroom and others are, as you say, much simpler and intuitive. I started using dt about 2 months ago in my free time (I have a fulltime job) and I only have now my 1st 4 photos to my liking. Also there might come more of intuitive modules, like for instance the ‘basic adjustments’ module. The MAC and Windows versions make it also accessible to the broader public. Marc. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Kneops <[email protected]> Verzonden: donderdag 20 augustus 2020 9:39 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review @jason and @pascal, I agree, it is a marvellous piece of work, unbelievable really and I love it but not use it as much as I would like to. And I would never recommend it to friends :(. Even for me as a freelance photographer (20+ years of experience) it feels like it is made for techies, not (yet) intuitive enough. For example the filmic module is so full of options and sliders and words that are not obvious/comprehensible for most people and even I have much difficulty in understanding what they do. I just start using the sliders and always slide in the wrong direction at first ;). My feeling says that when I see a slider that says 'White relative exposure' I want to drag it to the right to get more white tones, but the opposite happens. I'm not a fan of Windows, Adobe and LR, but I still use the latter because it is intuitive. With a few sliders I get almost exactly what I want with 99% of my images and very fast (even though LR lacks speed and I don't like the catalogs/collections system of it). That is why most people still use LR I think. It has sliders that are called White Tones, Black Tones, Highlights, Texture, all very clear in what they do and how to use them. If DT wants to drag a lot of people to its open source alternative, imho it needs to be simplified. LR lacks power and options for more adjustments, but what it does it does quite nicely. Highlight and shadow recovery always looks very natural, whereas in DT highlight recovery is not good enough and shadow recovery can look very harsh and artificial. But... I'm really a fan of DT and hope I can use it on a daily basis and convert my newest pc back into a Linux machine, because LR is the only reason I bought it (my other Linux computer is for webdesign work). Could have been Capture One or one of the other options as well by the way, what I'm trying to say is not LR specific. So, a lot of love and admiration for DT, but some suggestions for the future :). Jack Op 19-08-2020 om 10:00 schreef Pascal Obry: > > Hi Jason, > >> Overall impressions: a worthy improvement (thanks, developers!). I am >> going to adjust to a new workflow with darktable 3.2, but it is not a >> big adjustment. I think overall darktable has come very far since the >> early days, and it is hard to believe such a program is free >> software. > > Nice to read such message among all the bug reports. This amazing piece > of work is maintained by many talented people accros the planet. The > best we can do to keep our freedom against the big players trying to > lock us down in their world which ressemble to a golden jail. > > Cheers, > ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to [email protected] ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to [email protected]
