In rotate and perspective you can choose original format instead of largest
area.  When you do that, you can click in the image and change the crop by
moving the mouse.  You may still need to do a final crop, but I find a lot
of the time I can get a satisfactory crop doing this.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 8:50 AM Bernhard <darkta...@intervalsignals.org>
wrote:

> Technically it's understandable that this is separated and grouped as is.
> Neither crop nor flip/rotate do any recalculation of pixel values, they
> just reorder them (rotate/flip) or throw some of them away (crop).
>
> So as is: rotate freely (any angle) is technically the same as perspective
> correction: you have to take every pixel and it's surrounding and
> recalculate new values with rounding errors and interpolations and ...
>
> Perhaps you may configure quick access group to your needs ...
>
> --
>
> regards
> Bernhard
>
> https://www.bilddateien.de
>
> Willy Williams schrieb am 30.12.21 um 14:06:
> >
> > I, too, find the separation of crop, rotate and perspective rather
> difficult to justify.  From my perspective of doing architectural and real
> estate photography, I'd prefer to have them all in a single module, not
> separated by retouch and exposure in the v3.0 RAW module order.
> >
> > Willy Williams
> >
> > ************************************************************
> >
> > On 12/30/2021 at 07:36, Archie Macintosh wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 11:26, Andrew Greig <and...@algphoto.com.au>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>     I gave this a red hot go out of respect for the developers, but I
> miss having Crop and rotate in the one module because I have to perform
> those two operations in almost every shot...
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> I have to agree with Andrew: crop and rotate are operations I routinely
> use together – I almost never bother with perspective – so I, too, would
> prefer them to be together in a single module. (I can, of course, see that
> this preference is related to the kind of photography I do, and may not
> suit everyone.)
> >>
> >> (And this observation does not detract from my immense respect for, and
> gratitude to, the developers, for all their amazing work.)
> >>
> >>
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