Thanks, Jeremy. I can wait until the next build. I just fear that in the 
future when GIMP is 16 bit-enabled and I will be exporting to it from 
within dt for the heavy lifting of images that my feeble mind will 
become hopelessly entangled trying to keep two Ctrl-Z functionalities 
separate.

And thanks, Michael, for the history lesson. I did not even think of the 
suspend function of Ctrl-Z pre-dating its undo ability.

Jack


On 14-01-22 12:45 AM, jeremy rosen wrote:
> Originally, the patch was proposed with ctrl-Z, we agreed on IRC that
> shift-Z was a better idea and somehow managed to not fix it before release
> :P
>
> now we just need someone to change it. A few questions, though
>
> * does this force a change in the usermanual (if yes, then the change
> should only be applied to master)
> * does this change the shortcut for all people that hve not explicitely
> rebound ? (I consider that fine for master, a bit more problematic for
> stable, others may disagree)
>
> in any case, a pull-request might speed things up considerably, if anybody
> is looking for an easy contribution...
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Michael Schuster <[email protected]
>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jack Bowling <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> As has been mentioned before, Ctrl-z is the long-anointed key combo for
>>> UNDO in GIMP and many other unix-based programs. Could we please change
>>> the default focus zone combo to shift-z in dt so there will not be this
>>> heinous disconnect?
>>>
>>
>> sorry to pipe in (slightly off-topic), a correction seems in order: in
>> Unix-land, ^Z is frequently used to stop (put on hold, not terminate) a
>> commandline process that's running in the foreground so you get the
>> terminal back (in shells that have job control). Using ^Z as "undo" was
>> imported from Windows when GUIs and graphical applications made their way
>> into unix.
>>
>> That doesn't invalidate your argument that using ^Z for anything else than
>> undo in darktable is probably counter-productive :-)
>>
>> cheers & keep up the good work!
>> Michael
>> --
>> Michael Schuster
>> http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/
>>


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