Hi Rob,

thank you for your reply and advice. I saw already the mention video and 
all your others, they are great.
In the screenshot 'DT with base curve, sharpen and denoise profiled 
(wavelets 0.3 HSV-Color and none local means 0.45 HSV-luminance).png' I 
tried this approach with the best results I could get.

Best regards,
Christian


Am 2014-02-27 10:58, schrieb Robert William Hutton:
> On 26/02/14 21:00, Christian Sinn wrote:
>> I did a denoise comparison of darktable (DT) with rawtherapee (RT) and
>> lightroom (LR) because my photos shoot with ISO 1600 are very noisy and
>> I found no way for a satisfying result.
> I use a dual denoise approach, as recommended in the manual, using Denoise 
> (profiled):
>
> "This module can eliminate noise with two different core algorithms. 
> “non-local means” is a bit better suited to tackle
> luma (lightness) noise; “ wavelet” has its strength in eliminating chroma 
> (color) noise. If needed you can apply two
> instances of this module (see Section 3.2.3, “Multiple instances”). The 
> “non-local means” instance should be combined
> with blend mode “lightness” or “HSV lightness”; the “wavelet” instance with 
> blend mode “color” or “HSV color”."
>
> http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch03s04s04.html.php#denoise_profiled
>
> So basically I do:
> * wavelets, strength 1, blend mode color.
> * non-local means, strength 0.5, blend mode lightness.
>
> You can also have a look at the video I did on the denoise tools in 
> darktable, though I compare darktable to AfterShot
> Pro with NoiseNinja.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nBzAeM0tpI&list=PLmvlUro_Up1NBX7VK8UUuyWo1B468zEA0&index=4
>
> Also, from a previous email from Johannes to this list:
>
> "the profiled denoising is based on assumptions (the noise model) which break 
> down in dark areas for quite a few
> cameras. in my experience images with dark background and piecewise-constant 
> characteristics, the non-local means
> denoising module can work better (starry skies, probably fireworks, too). in 
> case you want more fine grained control
> over the wavelet shrinkage used in profiled denoising in wavelet mode, it's 
> basically the same method as employed in the
> equalizer. it's also a good idea to try color-only blend modes (hsv color, as 
> described here
> http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch03s04s04.html.php#denoise_profiled)."
>
> By the way, "wavelet shrinkage" is controlled by the "sharpness" tab of the 
> equalizer.  More on that in (you guessed it)
> another one of my videos:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzVXK4eAM5E&list=PLmvlUro_Up1NBX7VK8UUuyWo1B468zEA0&index=16
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
>
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