Thanks all for the response. I'm getting some pretty huge numbers for a 4x5
at 8000DPI using your formulas above.

(4 * 8000) * (5 * 8000) = 1280000000   ->   1.2 Gigapixels?

3 * 4 * 1280 * 4 = 61440    ->     61 GB RAM?

Will it really need that much or will the tlinig you talk about reduce that?

Fortunately, I have access to 144GB of RAM so it doesn't really matter, but
just curious.


Can I conclude that I'm unlikely to be CPU bound with a single 6 core/12
thread 2.4GHz Xeon?

Thanks for all the advice!

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:20 PM Roman Lebedev <lebedev...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Michael Below <be...@judiz.de> wrote:
> > To calculate MPix from DPI use (length_in_inch*nr_dpi) * (width_in_inch *
> > nr_dpi).
> >
> > So for 4” * 5” film at 3000 dpi you get (4 * 3000) * (5 * 3000) = 180
> MPix
> (yes, sounds about right)
>
> > According to Roman’s rule of thumb, one image will need > 8 GB RAM.
> I should probably note that those 8Gb must not be the the total amount of
> RAM in the system, but the amount of free ram, fully available for
> darktable.
>
> And do note that it is the lower estimate, in many cases darktable will
> need
> *much* more. Though in many of those cases tiling will kick in and help.
>
> > IMHO you don’t need to worry about CPU parallelism in that case, you
> should
> > choose the slower CPU if you can avoid swapping that way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Michael
> Roman.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Von: Laurence Rochfort [mailto:laurence.rochf...@gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2016 12:47
> > An: Roman Lebedev
> > Cc: darktable-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Betreff: Re: [Darktable-users] Benefit of more than 4 cores vs "speed"
> >
> >
> >
> > I have no idea how many MPix. I've only ever used film, so I don't think
> of
> > it in those terms. How can I calculate MPix from DPI?
> >
> >
> >
> > Any thoughts on CPU parallelism vs speed?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Laurence.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:32 AM Roman Lebedev <lebedev...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Laurence Rochfort
> > <laurence.rochf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> > Hi.
> >
> >>
> >> I'm building a new PC with scrounged components. I have the option of
> >> either
> >> a dual Xeon E5645 with up to 96GB RAM, or an i5-3470 with 8GB RAM.
> >>
> >> The storage is a PCIe x4 SSD.
> >>
> >> You can see a comparison here:
> >> http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E5645-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3470
> >>
> >> I'll mostly be dealing with medium format and 4x5 drum scans, so TIFF
> >> files
> >> that are from 200MB to 1GB. Mostly I'll be doing crop, rotation, colour
> >> and
> >> zone adjustment.
> > Yes, but how much MPix?
> > 50 MPix? 100 MPix?
> >
> > (very rough rule of thumb, lower estimate: for x pixel image, you want
> > at least 3 * 4 * x * 4 bytes memory; that is, for 20MPix = 960 MB)
> >
> > If more than ~50MPix, then you *absolutely* need as much RAM as you can
> get.
> > I doubt that GPU would be of any help at those sizes though...
> >
> >>
> >> Could people advise me on which would perform best?
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >> Laurence.
> > Roman.
> >
> >>
> >>
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