Hi Srinivas, I agree they need to be independent. Recommended by whom? A organization running out funds and grants from corporates? (I haven't check the sources of fund of Embarq India) so I may be out of line here.
Does privatizing all essential services provide a solution? BMTC a private limited already runs volvo and a/c services only for the rich and elite. Look at the number of a/c services to these places and no of trips to these elite sections of the city. All new buses are run to elite sections of the city and older, run down buses are moved to lesser localities. How does one question this as a citizen? By publicly available data I assume. Talking to AAP about public service and need to open up data and its advantages may get us this data and question this inequality. I still don't consider them as a political party like others in India. May be thats for another conversation. Having said that any change one asks outside of oneself then is asking for change in others and thats in a realm of politics (my view on asking for change) Im interested in exploring opening up of transport data with along with you. Arvind Vegan designed Mobile device On 10-Jan-2014, at 0:03, srinivas kodali <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi arvind, > > I understand the party wants to solve lot of public issues. But it is > recommended transport organizations work independently of political parties. > > BMRTC is one such transport agency, they are not controlled by political > parties to fix fares for buses. The idea is to help transport agencies > realize the loss incurring to them and public. > > I am trying to work with Embarq India, an NGO funded by world resource > institute in regards to these policies. > > Regards, > Srinivas > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Arvind Shivakumar > <[email protected]> wrote: >> How about bring this conversation to notice of AAP? >> >> Arvind >> >> Vegan designed Mobile device >> >> On 09-Jan-2014, at 22:10, srinivas kodali <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Suvajit, >>> >>> I apologize for the delayed response. I wouldn`t call mysore implementation >>> full yet, there are lot of challenges still in the industry and the >>> acceptability among commuters. But following data standards and open-access >>> to data will help the community and researches solve these challenges >>> effectively. >>> >>> GPS logs were being collected in Bangalore buses in offline mode since >>> 2008, it was a big failure. No one knows what happened to the data. It`s >>> high time all the transport agencies follow data standards in India. Until >>> these standards are followed, it`s mere wastage of public money on >>> experiments with no results. >>> >>> Currently the transport agencies don`t have the rights on transport data, >>> the only reason being the contracting firm holds the rights over data (over >>> public data!!!!). Atleast this is the current scenario with BEST in Mumbai >>> and MTC in chennai. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Srinivas >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Suvajit <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Srinivas, >>>> You are right. ITS has been the buzzword in the country in Public >>>> Transport sector for couple of years after the 12th Planning commission >>>> suggestions for inclusion of technology to fillip the usage and betterment >>>> of PT across country. >>>> >>>> But, the adoption on ITS is quite low across country due to the fact >>>> that there are no vendors to implement it the right way. Mysore KSRTC is >>>> the only full ITS implementation in the country. It is still far in terms >>>> of usability and usefulness. Visit mitra.ksrtc.in to see how you can track >>>> buses in realtime. But access to data openly in terms of API or any other >>>> form does not exists. >>>> >>>> Lack of confidence and confusion is prevailing more. Across all level in >>>> the domain everyone is looking for a successful model which can be >>>> referred to. >>>> So, in this situation,access to open data in terms of routes, schedules, >>>> bus stops, GPS logs is a bit too much to ask for. Firstly the data >>>> acquisition has to be in place. No one is talking about data >>>> standardization for now. >>>> >>>> You have rightly pointed, that push for open access to the ITS data is >>>> needed through policies and followed by tender contracts. >>>> An initiative can be taken now for ITS data standardization and access >>>> mode definition. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Suvajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, December 23, 2013 5:55:29 PM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> This post is regarding policy requirements for open access of transit >>>>> data in India. >>>>> >>>>> The Indian Government is spending significant amount of money in >>>>> Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) around the country through >>>>> Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JnNURM). Most city road >>>>> transport corporations are already implementing such systems by tracking >>>>> city buses with GPS units. Mysore and Delhi are good implementations for >>>>> these systems apart from pilot implementations across all major cities. >>>>> >>>>> But open access of data for public and developers is limited. The >>>>> contractors for these implementations are fooling the transit >>>>> organizations by coming up with clauses withholding raw data with them. >>>>> >>>>> The planning commission working group for 12th five year plan on >>>>> transport has recommended an investment of Rs. 8520 crores for ITS and a >>>>> total of Rs 3,88,308 crores in transport sector by the government ( >>>>> document attached ). >>>>> >>>>> There is a huge requirement for policies and data standards in transit >>>>> space to save public money and to solve traffic problems. >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure how i can contribute in terms of policies to get open >>>>> access and need some advice in this regard. I have been working on city >>>>> real-time traffic information as a developer for couple of years. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Srinivas >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For more details about this list >>>> http://datameet.org/discussions/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "datameet" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> For more details about this list >>> http://datameet.org/discussions/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "datameet" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> For more details about this list >> http://datameet.org/discussions/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "datameet" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > For more details about this list > http://datameet.org/discussions/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "datameet" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "datameet" group. 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