Hi arvind, Regarding your query, both National Urban Transport Policy and Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission recommend the transport agencies function as independently as possible for long-term viability.
I understand the inequality of services being provided by different transport agencies, but most of these agencies are deprived of funds. I will not take any names of agencies in this regard, but i will agree to the fact that availability of data both operational and financial will help researchers solve these issues. I am looking for different individuals or officials who are already working in this area and their expertise for technical standards. I will loop you in when something kicks off. Regards, srinivas On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Arvind Shivakumar < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Srinivas, > > I agree they need to be independent. Recommended by whom? A organization > running out funds and grants from corporates? (I haven't check the sources > of fund of Embarq India) so I may be out of line here. > > Does privatizing all essential services provide a solution? BMTC a private > limited already runs volvo and a/c services only for the rich and elite. > Look at the number of a/c services to these places and no of trips to these > elite sections of the city. All new buses are run to elite sections of the > city and older, run down buses are moved to lesser localities. > > How does one question this as a citizen? By publicly available data I > assume. > > Talking to AAP about public service and need to open up data and its > advantages may get us this data and question this inequality. I still don't > consider them as a political party like others in India. May be thats for > another conversation. Having said that any change one asks outside of > oneself then is asking for change in others and thats in a realm of > politics (my view on asking for change) > > Im interested in exploring opening up of transport data with along with > you. > > Arvind > Vegan designed Mobile device > > On 10-Jan-2014, at 0:03, srinivas kodali <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi arvind, > > I understand the party wants to solve lot of public issues. But it is > recommended transport organizations work independently of political parties. > > BMRTC is one such transport agency, they are not controlled by political > parties to fix fares for buses. The idea is to help transport agencies > realize the loss incurring to them and public. > > I am trying to work with Embarq India, an NGO funded by world resource > institute in regards to these policies. > > Regards, > Srinivas > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Arvind Shivakumar < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> How about bring this conversation to notice of AAP? >> >> Arvind >> >> Vegan designed Mobile device >> >> On 09-Jan-2014, at 22:10, srinivas kodali <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Suvajit, >> >> I apologize for the delayed response. I wouldn`t call mysore >> implementation full yet, there are lot of challenges still in the industry >> and the acceptability among commuters. But following data standards and >> open-access to data will help the community and researches solve these >> challenges effectively. >> >> GPS logs were being collected in Bangalore buses in offline mode since >> 2008, it was a big failure. No one knows what happened to the data. It`s >> high time all the transport agencies follow data standards in India. Until >> these standards are followed, it`s mere wastage of public money on >> experiments with no results. >> >> Currently the transport agencies don`t have the rights on transport data, >> the only reason being the contracting firm holds the rights over data (over >> public data!!!!). Atleast this is the current scenario with BEST in Mumbai >> and MTC in chennai. >> >> Regards, >> Srinivas >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Suvajit <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hi Srinivas, >>> You are right. ITS has been the buzzword in the country in Public >>> Transport sector for couple of years after the 12th Planning commission >>> suggestions for inclusion of technology to fillip the usage and betterment >>> of PT across country. >>> >>> But, the adoption on ITS is quite low across country due to the fact >>> that there are no vendors to implement it the right way. Mysore KSRTC is >>> the only full ITS implementation in the country. It is still far in terms >>> of usability and usefulness. Visit mitra.ksrtc.in to see how you can >>> track buses in realtime. But access to data openly in terms of API or any >>> other form does not exists. >>> >>> Lack of confidence and confusion is prevailing more. Across all level in >>> the domain everyone is looking for a successful model which can be referred >>> to. >>> So, in this situation,access to open data in terms of routes, schedules, >>> bus stops, GPS logs is a bit too much to ask for. Firstly the data >>> acquisition has to be in place. No one is talking about data >>> standardization for now. >>> >>> You have rightly pointed, that push for open access to the ITS data is >>> needed through policies and followed by tender contracts. >>> An initiative can be taken now for ITS data standardization and access >>> mode definition. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Suvajit >>> >>> >>> On Monday, December 23, 2013 5:55:29 PM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> This post is regarding policy requirements for open access of transit >>>> data in India. >>>> >>>> The Indian Government is spending significant amount of money in >>>> Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) around the country through >>>> Jawaharlal >>>> Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JnNURM). Most city road >>>> transport corporations are already implementing such systems by tracking >>>> city buses with GPS units. Mysore and Delhi are good implementations for >>>> these systems apart from pilot implementations across all major cities. >>>> >>>> But open access of data for public and developers is limited. The >>>> contractors for these implementations are fooling the transit organizations >>>> by coming up with clauses withholding raw data with them. >>>> >>>> The planning commission working group for 12th five year plan on >>>> transport has recommended an investment of Rs. 8520 crores for ITS and a >>>> total of Rs 3,88,308 crores in transport sector by the government ( >>>> document attached ). >>>> >>>> There is a huge requirement for policies and data standards in transit >>>> space to save public money and to solve traffic problems. >>>> >>>> I am not sure how i can contribute in terms of policies to get open >>>> access and need some advice in this regard. I have been working on city >>>> real-time traffic information as a developer for couple of years. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Srinivas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> For more details about this list >>> http://datameet.org/discussions/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "datameet" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> For more details about this list >> http://datameet.org/discussions/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "datameet" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> For more details about this list >> http://datameet.org/discussions/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "datameet" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > For more details about this list > http://datameet.org/discussions/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "datameet" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > For more details about this list > http://datameet.org/discussions/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "datameet" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "datameet" group. 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