Hi Nikhil,

I'll strongly suggest that we stay on GTFS as a standard.

There are many applications to work with it, since it's an open standard.
I'm in pune and i can help you with this.

Regards,
Dev
On 04-Jul-2015 10:50 am, "Nikhil VJ" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> Some of you whom I've put in Bcc had signed up on the Datameet Pune
> interest form. While Craig is working on how to organize meetups
> (found a venue, planning dates etc), I'd like to share a collaborative
> task with you.
>
> Here's something that some volunteer groups (ImproveMyCity, Pravasi
> Manch, Pimpri-Chinchwad Citizens Forum) are upto. IMC is building a
> website for PMPML (Pune's bus system), and we're helping PMPML put the
> bus routes info in a standardized common structure that can then be
> used for properly informing the public. We've had many roadblocks
> previously with this process and are now much wiser off it.
>
> There's an easy but repetitive task that we need to hammer out : we
> have a standardized list of bus stops in English with unique code and
> lat-long, which was formed and freely shared by an org called ITDP.
> And we have a separate longer list of bus stop names in Marathi which
> we'd gotten from an earlier unorganized dataset. We need to fill in
> the Marathi counterparts of the English stop names.
>
> I've put this all on this google spreadsheet:
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ppFJeb7Dnj6-1yvniH2Q6exQFzK6fM0wsZNn4XZIvkI/edit?usp=sharing
>
> There are just under 1800 stops to bilingual-ize this way.
>
> So what you have to do:
> Play match-the-following, or type some Marathi words in. Simple!
> Please write back to me if you're interested in doing a set of rows
> for half an hour or so today, and I will add you to the doc as an
> editor.
>
> Target completion time: Sunday 5th July EOD. But if you can give some
> time today before 4pm that would be great, as we're meeting PMPML's
> CMD at that time to discuss on all this. He's recently taken charge
> and is very passionate about making all the information transparent
> and accessible to the public.
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Why this is important :
> If you see the routes sheets in the same google spreadsheet, we're
> going to populate it with existing route info prepared by ITDP (a few
> years old), and have PMPML staff edit and update the route information
> using this core list of bus stops. When adding a new stop in a route,
> it's got to be linked to other stop info like stopcode, lat-long.
> Building up this way, with properly cross-linked information instead
> of arbitrary entries, will then enable all the information management
> features one needs from a modern public transport service.
>
> Some background:
> These exercises had been done in the past, but the technologies used,
> the core data like this, etc wasn't properly shared or passed on, and
> PMPML themselves weren't involved and so never had the standardized
> stuff in their systems. A GTFS (that google maps uses) feed was
> created, but that's basically not human-manageable.. the main datafile
> is around 6 lakh lines long.
>
> So now we want to do things differently. A very important component
> here is OPEN data, and transparency at the input end. This data format
> that we've commonly agreed upon is both human and machine readable,
> and once set up, will be a lot easier to maintain. PMPML will have
> constant direct access to the system and they will be able to edit the
> data themselves as soon as there are changes from their end.
>
> It would be great to have a full-on database-powered system.. I am
> clueless on that but knew a few excel hacks so am doing it this way.
> If YOU have the skills to drum something up then welcome aboard!
>
> -------------------------------
>
> Coming back, breaking it down to simple parts : The task for right now
> is just to fill Marathi names for each bus stop.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ppFJeb7Dnj6-1yvniH2Q6exQFzK6fM0wsZNn4XZIvkI/edit?usp=sharing
>
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> Cheers,
> Nikhil
> +91-966-583-1250
> Pune, India
> Self-designed learner at Swaraj University <
> http://www.swarajuniversity.org>
> http://nikhilsheth.blogspot.in
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