Hi,

Sorry for the messed up. I was forwarding your email to my co-worker and I
accidentally send it to you.

Anyway, I have a few questions to follow up with you guys.

1. What are the possible cause of the "read disturb errors"?. Can you give
me a bit detail explanation?

2. I am using kernel 2.6.10 and the ECC that we are using is
NAND_ECC_HW3_512. Brian, in your suggestions (reading the failing blocks),
how I can possible access the nand blocks if am getting a constant "BOOTME
BOOTME ..." on my serial port?. Do you have any tools that I can use?

Thanks,

John






On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Brian G Rhodes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Caglar Akyuz wrote:
>
>> On Friday 23 April 2010 11:09:51 pm John Tobias wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello Guys,
>>>
>>> I would like to know what are the possible chances that u-boot/ubl
>>>  crashes?. I am looking for some theory/scenario that I can possibly
>>>  connect/apply the scenario to what happened to my device based on
>>> dm6446.
>>>
>>> The device has been running for a year now and for some reason it never
>>>  come back anymore. I connect through the serial port of the device and
>>>  check if there's something different. The device was in the state where
>>>  the bootloader is missing. I re-program the u-boot and the device boot
>>> it
>>>  again as I expected.
>>> The /dev/mtd0 and /dev/mtd1 are not writable on linux space in order to
>>> screwed up the uboot.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Since you are looking for theories, here is mine...
>>
>> Assuming that you are using a NAND flash, I think it can be because of
>> read disturb in NAND array. I know that it's a very long shot but its the
>> first explanation coming to my ming.
>>
>>
>>
>
> If it is caused by read disturb errors, the number of bits of ECC you are
> using would be useful to know.  If you are using 1 bit ECC, then I wouldn't
> say that it is entirely unlikely.  The UBL is setup to read from 5
> consecutive blocks for the bootloader, so you can always program multiple
> backups, and use a similar strategy for Linux if you put the kernel in NAND
> as well.  So, I would second Caglar's theory, also assuming you are using a
> NAND device.
>
> If you can recreate the failure, I would suggest reading the data off first
> before reprogramming again.  Then you can compare it to a good image and see
> how many bits are incorrect in the failing block(s), accounting for the
> number of bits which can be corrected by ECC or reading without ECC.
>
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