Hi Gert,

> On 21 Oct 2019, at 15:48, Gert Doering <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:51:12AM +0200, Edward Shryane via db-wg wrote:
>> as presented during the DB-WG session at RIPE 79, we wish to extend the 
>> "Default Maintainer" functionality for LIR organisations.
> 
> I haven't seen that presentation, so forgive me if I haven't understood
> things properly.
> 

Thank you for your feedback, I also proposed these changes on the db-wg list so 
it wasn't necessary to sit through the presentation.


>> Secondly, to automatically (re-)set the Default Maintainer on a nightly 
>> basis, on *all* top-level resources:
>> 
>> - Fix inconsistencies due to manual updates
>> - Add the default maintainer (with an mnt-by: attribute), and remove other 
>> user maintainer(s)
> 
> Why so?  If a LIR puts something into the database, which is allowed by
> business rules, I see no rationale for resetting it.
> 

The Default Maintainer is (also) set by the user, in the LIR Portal, and is 
visible under "Account Details".

This proposal is to make sure the maintainer in the RIPE database is aligned 
with the maintainer specified in the LIR Portal.

It could be confusing if the RIPE database doesn't match the LIR Portal, and 
also, any additional maintainer(s) in the RIPE database are not visible in the 
LIR Portal (so it's not clear who can update which objects).

> Now if we as a group decide that certain changes should not be allowed,
> that's a different matter - but do not arbitrarily undo user changes unless 
> specifically asked for ("I have lost my maintainer password").
> 

This proposal aims to resolve differences in user changes in the LIR Portal 
(i.e. set Default Maintainer), and the RIPE database (i.e. the mnt-by on 
top-level resources).

Should setting a Default Maintainer in the LIR Portal, preclude other mntners 
(as an mnt-by) on an LIR's top-level resources ?

Should we require the Default Maintainer (as an mnt-by) on an LIR's top-level 
resources (i.e., don't allow it to be removed, as the user has set it in the 
LIR Portal) ?

I welcome any feedback.


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Regards
Ed Shryane
RIPE NCC


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