On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 5:34 PM, denis walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Randy, Sylvain > > IANAL either but I understood the main legal issue was that there is no > defined purpose to use the RIPE Database for geolocation services. So > whatever is in that referenced file is not covered by a valid purpose. We > have had the "geoloc:" attribute for a long time. The value of this > attribute is similar to the data contained in this file. So if that data > was the problem we would already have a problem without "geofeed:". > > Maybe we can cover all this with an appropriate purpose. Suppose we > defined it in this way: > > "Providing geolocation information related to Internet number resources in > a format defined by current IETF specifications." > > This covers having a referenced file as long as the content of that file > is as defined in the IETF specs. > Seeing as the concerns seem to be legal, and NOUAALNDWPTOTV (None Of Us Are Actual Lawyers Nor Do We Play Them On TeleVision), I suspect that we need some input from the lawyers. If we ask "Would adding 'Providing geolocation information related to Internet number resources in a format defined by current IETF specifications.' alleviate your concerns?" and they nod happily, then job done… ? W > cheers > denis > co-chair DB-WG > > On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 20:20, Randy Bush via db-wg <[email protected]> > wrote: > > IANAL and try not to play one on the net. but ... > > my reading of why NCC legal has problems with the geofeed: attribute is > that they see the NCC as legally liable for the content of the geofeed data > file to which it points. > > this concern may be based, for example, in the courts finding pirate bay > liable for the content to which they pointed, and similar precident. > > so the question is not so much the purpose of the database, it is > constraining the privacy exposing danger in the geofeed files. i think the > authors of RFC 8805 could be of help here. > > but again, IANAL. for one, i charge less :) > > randy > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/ > listinfo/db-wg > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/ > listinfo/db-wg >
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