Hello Jeroen,

> On 18 Nov 2025, at 11:15, Jeroen Massar <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 18 Nov 2025, at 09:43, Edward Shryane <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [..]
>> Here is an example for the RIPE NCC itself, adding a reg-nr: attribute :
>> 
>> organisation:   ORG-RIEN1-RIPE
>> org-name:       Reseaux IP Europeens Network Coordination Centre (RIPE NCC)
>> country:        NL
>> org-type:       LIR
>> descr:          RIPE NCC Operations
>> address:        P.O. Box 10096
>> address:        1001 EB
>> address:        Amsterdam
>> address:        NETHERLANDS
>> reg-nr:         40539632         # added registration number
> 
>> [..]
>> The country: code is NL, so the registry is the KvK : Go to 
>> https://www.kvk.nl/en/search/ and enter "40539632".
> 
> TLDR of below:
> - reg-nr needs a reg-location with details of where that number belongs to
> - reg-nr might be 'natural person' to indicate that situation
> - then no 'reg-nr' indicates an unmaintained/not-updated object
> - next to reg-nr
> - even with those details shady "companies" will remain shady as long as it 
> is acceptable to register them as such.
> 

Thank you for the examples.

We propose to only include the registration number, in addition to the existing 
country code. We should not link to registry websites as they are external to 
the RIPE database and subject to change. Every registry website is different, 
and some do not allow linking directly to an organisation or may require 
registration. This can be better done by the database client for regions of 
interest to the user.

The organisation object already contains the country code from the legal 
address, so this does not need to be repeated in the reg-nr attribute. However 
we can include the region for countries where this is necessary and where we 
have the information internally (e.g. Hamburg HRA12345). We will review this as 
part of the impact analysis.

Information about natural persons is out of scope of this proposal.

Regards
Ed Shryane
RIPE NCC


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