Haven't had a problem, get many email a day from dbi-users, might want to
check you mail server, since I had a mail account before where the server
would for some reason or another loose messages.

Ilya Sterin

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward J. Sabol
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 6/7/01 2:18 PM
Subject: Anyone else experiencing problems with the dbi-* mailing lists?

Is there a problem with the [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lists? I seem to be experiencing sporadic
delivery problems.

Recently, I noticed that I haven't received a single e-mail from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] since May 11th or [EMAIL PROTECTED] since May 4th.
Both
of those are low-volume mailing lists, so that's somewhat plausible.
However,
although I have received e-mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED], I noticed that
the
volume of posts that I have received has dropped drastically. For
example,
between May 22nd and June 1st, I received *one* e-mail from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since then, there has been some improvement, but
it's
still a trickle compared to what the volume was just a couple months
ago. And
the e-mails I do receive from [EMAIL PROTECTED] often refer to e-mails
that
I haven't received.

At first, I thought maybe I had been unsubscribed from dbi-announce
and/or
dbi-dev, so I sent e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I
received
no response from the list server. I also tried to send e-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and didn't get any response there either.
Next I
tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] Again no response. The e-mail I sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] has gone unanswered for two days as well.

So I decided to check the mailing list archives to see what's going on.
<http://lists.perl.org/> referred me to the mailing list archives at
<http://archive.develooper.com/>, but I couldn't access that web site at
all.
No response at all to my HTTP connections.

Next, I checked the DBI home page at <http://dbi.symbolstone.org/>. It
has
links to two other mailing list archives: One at
<http://outside.organic.com/mail-archives/dbi-users/> and another one at
<http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/mailing-lists/PerlDB-Interest>.
But I
couldn't get a response from outside.organic.com either! Fortunately,
the
fine folks at MPE have figured out how to correctly administer a web
site.

I also checked my old dbi-* e-mails and found a link to a mailing list
archive at <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=perl-dbi>. I was able to
access
that site as well.

Comparing the mailing list archive at theaimsgroup.com with the mailing
list
at MPE, the MPE archive seems to be complete, but theaimsgroup.com
archive is
missing e-mails that the MPE archive has received. It's also missing
e-mails
that I've received. Both the MPE archive and theaimsgroup.com archive
contain
lots of e-mails that I haven't received. MPE has archived 242 dbi-users
e-mails in the month of June, theaimsgroup.com has archived 22, and I've
received even less than that.

I'm subscribed to a dozen mailing lists from places other than perl.org
and
I'm receiving e-mail from all of these other lists just fine, so I don't
think it's a problem with my machine. My workstation has been turned on
and
connected to the Internet 24/7 for years now, and I've been subscribed
to the
dbi-* mailing lists since April 1997. Looking at the dbi-users archive
at
<http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=perl-dbi>, I'm more convinced of that
than
ever, since they seem to be experiencing the same problem as me.

Anyone have clue what's going on? Anyone else experiencing this? I've
checked
my mail logs and the e-mails just aren't getting here. I wonder if maybe
lists.perl.org has bitten off more than it can chew. Perhaps at various
times
their load becomes so high that sendmail processes are being terminated
before they finish propagating an e-mail to all the members of the
mailing
list?

Needless to say, please CC: me on all responses and/or follow-ups. I've
set
the Reply-To: header on this e-mail accordingly. But I don't trust that
the
mailing list server will send any e-mails to me. (I estimate that I have
a 1
in 5 chance of receiving a particular dbi-users e-mail from the mailing
list
server.)

Thanks,
Ed

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