On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 <da...@cpan.org> wrote:
> This is a follow-up to > < > http://blogs.perl.org/users/ross_attrill/2013/02/dbixdatamodel---elegant-database-interaction-with-perl.html#comment-367206 > >. > > Peter Rabbitson ✍: > > Steven Haryanto ✍: > > >> One of the things that keeps preventing me from using DBIC (and thus > >> so far I use raw DBI/SQL) is the apparent complexity of it all. > > > I hear this sentiment a lot, but any time I reach out to ask for a > > clarification - I don't get anything back. It is frustrating :) I > > would *so much* appreciate a comment, or an email, or a blogpost that > > would point out complexities that *feel* unjustified. A criticism > > like this would not go unnoticed - either the points made are going > > to be explained away, or acknowledged and eventually fixed. > > Sounds like a severe case of organisational blindness. The DBIC distro > ... > The good news is that I have identified the parts of the API which are > used most often; the API follows the law of the vital few. Expert users > of DBIC should be able to name them without looking them up. I > presented this at Austrian Perl workshop last year, and will soon do so > again at German Perl workshop. > > The ironic news is that I am going to attempt to fix the problem of too > much documentation by writing more. I volunteer to add > > =head1 NAME > > C<DBIx::Class::Manual::Quickstart> - up and running with DBIC in 10 > minutes or your money back > > which is to be placed between ::Manual::Glossary and ::Manual::Intro > and has a prominent incoming link in the "GETTING HELP/SUPPORT" section > of DBIx::Class. When it's finished, this needs to be usability tested. > > If you do this on github I will work with you on the usability testing and/or contribute to the substance. I came in to DBIC by doing maintenance code and adding features to an existing project, and a lot of what I did was find a similar working example in the code and modify until it worked. I can confirm that it's a pretty bewildering technology to get a handle on. I'm starting something from the ground up using it now, and consequently learning it "for real", but I'm still new enough to it that I should be able to remember what's confusing when you hit it the first time. Anyway--like I said, put a start on github and send us the url. mike
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