/me has a dawning realization...

Oh, you were using the Issue submission form!

I think the problem here is that more people pay attention to the
mailing list than the Issue page.  (At least, I first visited the issue
page *today*, while trying to see which issues you posted.  As you said,
you filed an issue and mentioned that you had a fix for it...)

So, an aside: normal etiquette when using bugzilla/etc. and you have a
patch is to file the bug and the patch (which you did), and if you don't
get a response after a reasonable period of time (~1 week or less) to
ask on the mailing list, as there are often slackers like me who forget
that bugzilla exists but do pay attention to the mailing list.

(Though given the way things are going, we either need to hold more
discussions on the mailing list, or better integrate the issues page
into our process.  I think it's obvious at this point that not enough
people actually read the issues page. :-(

So Yuniti, don't take it personally that we didn't respond at the issue
page.  The issue page currently seems to be a forgotten
afterthought. :-(

All that said, if you would like to contribute to DbLinq (as I'm sure
you would), Pascal would be more than happy to add you as a committer to
the project.  All you need to do is ask. :-)

Thanks,
 - Jon

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:14 -0300, Marcos Boyington wrote:
> Hi Jonathan!  Sorry if my "branching" at codeplex was taken as an offense,
> that was in no way my intention! I definitely have nothing against the
> direction you guys have taken - as a matter of fact, I wanted some of your
> direction with my bug fixes!  I very much wanted to help you guys with the
> project - problem was, I had no way of contacting you!  I tried getting
> email addresses for the most active developers (yourself included), but
> Google Code does not have it available.
> 
> I also tried posting bug reports on the google code page (saying I had a fix
> and if I could be added as a developer), and again, no response! That was
> actually my main reason for going with CodePlex - not because I wanted to
> branch from your guys' amazing work (in fact, I'd love to combine it all),
> but because google code was a huge discouragement in having me be part of
> your group/effort.
> 
> The beauty of CodePlex is it's quite easy to contact the
> developers/administrators of the project to be added to the project.  I
> think this could greatly help in having other developers such as myself help
> out, even if only little bits.
> 
> I'm not sure where to go from here - I could/would gladly closedown the
> CodePlex project and submit my changes to the Google Code group, but as I
> said, I really do think it's a major detriment to the project as it's quite
> difficult to join in the effort.  I assumed that you guys were in contact
> via mailing list or personal email (As I saw your check-ins), but that
> doesn't help much when someone new wants to join in.
> 
> Let me know how you'd like to proceed.  I definitely do not want to branch
> and want all of us working on the same thing.  If you're up for trying
> CodePlex, I can add you all as managers there and also would gladly do the
> integration of the efforts from the google group.
> 
> - Marcos Boyington
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Pryor [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: yuniti
> Subject: Re: New project at CodePlex for DbLinq
> 
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 19:30 -0700, yuniti wrote:
> > I've started a new project over at CodePlex for DbLinq.  I've noticed
> > the Google project has come to a crawl and has gotten very little
> > support lately.
> 
> I understand that the Google project seems like it's slow, but the
> mailing list is still somewhat responsive, and we're quite willing to
> add new commiters to the project.  I don't understand why you felt the
> need to fork the project at codeplex.  (It's not like we've had any
> major discussions on the list about intractable differences of opinion
> on how to manage and run the project.  To the contrary, when it isn't
> quiet there's been no flaming of late to speak of...)
> 
> Rephrased another way, why place your fixes at codeplex instead of
> contributing them back here?  This will only increase maintenance burden
> if we try to keep the two projects in sync with each other (and at
> present, why shouldn't we try to keep them in sync?), and increase the
> likelihood that fixes made in one branch won't make it to the other.
> 
> Would you be interesting in merging your changes back into the Google
> repository so that we don't split our efforts?
> 
> Thanks,
>  - Jon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 


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