DK wrote: > On 6/13/06, Paul J Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> DK wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > I am not quite clear with all this: >> > My current version is dbmail 2.0.9-1 stable deb pkg >> >> that would be dbmail2-mysql then. >> >> > >> > I have filters in table dbmail_filters defined and they work fine. >> > My guess is dbmail handles that without sieve?!? >> >> Yes. But only in the dbmail2 packages for 2.0.x. >> >> > >> > I have libsieve1 2.1.10-1 installed but not configured. >> >> You're not using it anyways. >> >> > >> > I am considering to upgrade to dbmail version 2.16 (deb pkg unstable) >> > and installing dbmail_sieve. >> >> That works great, but those packages do *not* include the filters patch: >> you'll have to port the entries in the filters table to sieve scripts. >> >> > >> > Now: >> > Is dbmail_sieve using the dbmail db or does it create sieve folders to >> > tmp store email? >> >> It uses the dbmail_sievescripts table. >> >> > What is your suggestion advantages / disadvantages? >> > >> > Is it safer to stay with dbmail in the stable version? I am worried >> > about upgrading so many dependencies to unstable. (See dependants list >> > below) >> >> That depends on what other services you're using that system. The list >> below looks pretty clean to me. >> >> > When I do install dbmail 2.16 it removes dbmail2-mysql first. >> > So would this work: >> > 1) backup dbmail mysql database >> > 2) backup /etc/dbmail/ >> >> always a very good idea. >> >> 2a) stop your MTA (postfix?) to prevent mail from bouncing. >> >> > 3) Install via "apt-get -t unstable install dbmail dbmail-mysql >> > dbmail-sieve" >> >> 4) run the migrate_2.0_to_2.1 script in >> /usr/share/doc/dbmail-mysql/examples >> >> 5) run 'dbmail-util -ay' to prime the header caches. >> 6) edit /etc/defaults/dbmail to select the services you want to run >> 7) check proper delivery: cat message.txt|dbmail-smtp -u username -m >> folder >> 8) /etc/init.d/dbmail restart >> 9) test availability of imap and/or pop3 >> 10) restart your MTA and keep an eye on mail.log. >> 11) done. >> >> > 4) restore dbmail mysql backup (Same strucure right) >> >> NO! Dbmail does not require dump/reload. >> >> > 5) restore /etc/dbmail/ (Do we have new config options?) >> >> NO! Allow dpkg to install the maintainers version of dbmail.conf, and >> afterwards check the settings (trace levels, min_spare_children, >> max_spare_children, etc...) >> >> > >> > I know this was a a lot at once so thank you very much >> > Demi >> > >> > >> > /# apt-get -t unstable install dbmail dbmail-mysql dbmail-sieve >> > Reading Package Lists... Done >> > Building Dependency Tree... Done >> > The following extra packages will be installed: >> > libatk1.0-0 libcairo2 libfreetype6 libglib2.0-0 libgmime2.1 >> > libgtk2.0-common libmysqlclient15off libpango1.0-0 >> > libpango1.0-common mysql-common >> > Suggested packages: >> > stunnel dbmail-ldap exim4 mail-transport-agent libfreetype6-dev >> > ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho >> > ttf-thryomanes ttf-baekmuk ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp >> > ttf-arphic-gkai00mp ttf-arphic-bkai00mp >> > Recommended packages: >> > libatk1.0-data libglib2.0-data x-ttcidfont-conf >> > The following packages will be REMOVED: >> > dbmail2-mysql >> > The following NEW packages will be installed: >> > dbmail dbmail-mysql dbmail-sieve libcairo2 libgmime2.1 >> libmysqlclient15off >> > The following packages will be upgraded: >> > libatk1.0-0 libfreetype6 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-common libpango1.0-0 >> > libpango1.0-common mysql-common >> > 7 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 1 to remove and 437 not upgraded. >> > Need to get 7179kB of archives. >> > After unpacking 6622kB of additional disk space will be used. >> > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n >> > _______________________________________________ >> -- >> ________________________________________________________________ >> Paul Stevens paul at nfg.nl >> NET FACILITIES GROUP GPG/PGP: 1024D/11F8CD31 >> The Netherlands________________________________http://www.nfg.nl > > > Ohh wow > I don't remember haven ever gotten a better formulated answer. Thank > you Paul I really appreciate that. > Now what I still don't understand is what is the deal with those two > versions of the same software? You are the owner of both packages so > what is the point?
There are no two versions of the same. dbmail-2.0 packages are called: dbmail2-mysql dbmail2-pgsql dbmail2-mysql-ldap dbmail2-pgsql-ldap They are named as such because when I setup the packaging I was aiming to support dbmail-1 and dbmail-2 both together in debian/sarge. However, since dbmail never made it into sarge due to critical bugs, all is moot. So I decided to drop the double naming and redo everything in the dbmail-2.1+ packages. Hence the new scheme dbmail - base package for the dbmail email solution dbmail-pgsql - Postgresql module for Dbmail dbmail-sqlite - Sqlite module for Dbmail dbmail-ldap - LDAP module for Dbmail dbmail-sieve - Sieve module for Dbmail dbmail-mysql - MySQL module for Dbmail > > 1) Witch one is going to be maintained in the future or more likely to > stay current? dbmail-2.0.x will not end up in debian/etch dbmail-2.2+ is very much aimed at debian/etch, but will also be supported for debian/sarge if etch is /late/. both series will be maintained on debian.nfgd.net until their end-of-life. > 2) The dbmail 2.16 version vs dbmail2-mysql version has libsieve > integrated. That sounds good. Is that maybe the point of having two > versions and what are the advantages of integration? dbmail2-mysql does *NOT* support Sieve because dbmail-2.0.x doesn't dbmail-2.1+ does support sieve. > > I am going to wait for your answer before I make any major changes. I > think it would be a good idea to post your answers on the wiki pages > as well since most people just starting out with dbmail don't even > realize the fact that there are so many possibilities. > > Thanks much -- ________________________________________________________________ Paul Stevens paul at nfg.nl NET FACILITIES GROUP GPG/PGP: 1024D/11F8CD31 The Netherlands________________________________http://www.nfg.nl
