Tomas Kuliavas wrote:

    Can I collect opinions here about favorite/least favorite spam
    filtering packages, for use in a dbmail environment?

    What have you had luck with? What works best? What's your opinion?
    Which should a happy dbmail (postfix) user, now getting too much
    spam, use for filtration?

    TIA, Lou Picciano

I'm using sqlgrey (postgrey implementation with database (mysql)) and
spamassassin. So far so good. sqlgrey is the best tool (to my knowledge)
for front-line protection against spam before spamassassin takes over
the job. I'm welcome for other suggestions.
So, you don't mind not receiving mail from multi-homed hosts (*cough*
gmail *cough*)? Greylistting's very concept is broken by design.

So using myriad of outgoing email servers is not something unusual.

You are missing the point. Consider this scenario. A server has multiple NICs on different networks, all routing to the internet. The default route gets rotated around (when it expires, after a few minutes) in order to load balance. This sort of a setup is fairly common on big installations (helps with resiliency, too).

So, such a server gets a message in it's outbound spool. It tries to deliver it to you via one of it's several routes/NICs. You see the connection, greylist it and temporarily reject. Server goes away for a bit. By the time it retries, the route has expired, and you get an incoming connection from the same server but from a different source IP. Your greylist hasn't seen that IP, so you temporarily reject again. This can go on forever. Some of your mail might get lucky and get through. Most will probably get massively delayed, and some will likely keep bouncing in the outgoing spool until it expires and bounces back, several days later.

Anyone who does not like some tool can call it broken by design.

You are mixing up cause and effect. I dislike tools if they are broken. I don't call them broken because I dislike them.

Gordan
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