Hi 

I'm only starting to stroll in the foothills of mount semantic web but I have 
been attempting to use skos subjects in the mashups I've been experimenting 
with so I'm risking a probably naive intrusion into this debate .

One of my mashups is a map of football stadiums in England:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=http://www.cems.uwe.ac.uk/xmlwiki/RDF/stadium2kml.xq

in which I make use of the skos:subject dbpedia:Football_venues_in_England in 
the underlying SPARQL query

but if I take a typical resource (Abbey Stadium in Cambridge) in this category 
I find these skos:subjects:

    * dbpedia:Category:Buildings_and_structures_in_Cambridgeshire
    * dbpedia:Category:Cambridge
    * dbpedia:Category:Cambridge_United_F.C.
    * dbpedia:Category:Football_venues_in_England

These are all logically redundant 
     * dbpedia:Category:Cambridge  -  is the same as p:location
     * dbpedia:Category:Cambridge_United_F.C.  is inverse of 
dbpedia:Cambridge_United_F.C. p:ground ?r
     * dbpedia:Category:Football_venues_in_England  should be deducible given 
Cambridge_United is a football club (although this is not obviously so in the 
dbpedia data)
     * dbpedia:Category:Buildings_and_structures_in_Cambridgeshire is a 
conjunction of rdfs:type yago:Building102913152 
       and some geo data set which knows that Cambridge is in Cambridgeshire)

This leads me to think that wikipedia categories are (nearly?) always redundant 
derived relationships which, since manually created or roboted) are likely to 
be also imperfect. Since there is no end to the derived relationships which 
could be materialised into such categories, perhaps it's a waste of time 
wondering what they really are or perhaps they should be labeled as 
derivedRelationship and linked to the rule which is their basis.

Chris Wallace
UWE Bristol



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