Peter Ansell wrote:
> What would change if there were disjoint statements? Are disjoint
> declarations used for more than just verifying that dbpedia is
> consistent?
>   
    There are a lot of uses.  I wouldn't trivialize the verification 
part either:  the wikipedia "street level" view hides serious 
consistency problems that look quite embarrassing from 8000 feet up:  if 
you're making a product that gives people that 8000 foot view and you 
don't want to get laughed out of town,  you need to deal with them.  
Also certain inference procedures will fail when applied to inconsistent 
data,  so providing a consistent view is an important processing step

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    In my particular case I've identified a set of "things" that are 
about a certain problem domain.  Now I want to create an (internal) 
broad classification of things,  initially to decide which things get 
further processing.  For instance,  I'm ready to work with Place,  
Infrastructure and Organization members.  My system could accomplish 
something with Person,  but there are practical issues I don't want to 
deal with now.  I suppose I could fit Work in somehow,  but I don't know 
how.  I also got a few SupremeCourtofTheUnitedStatesCases and,  
frankly,  never want to see them ever again.

   My categories are derived from a merger of the dbpedia ontology and 
freebase types;  the structure of the dbpedia ontology fits my problem 
domain well,  better than the FB type system does.  On the other hand,  
the FB type system is sometimes more specific -- some things are typed 
in one system and not in the other,  so merging the systems gives more 
objects with types.  Objects that have inconsistent assignments will be 
tagged and investigated (not a lot of work,  since there aren't many.)  
Objects that don't have types go into an "Untyped" category -- some of 
those are going to get types assigned,  others are going to go in the 
same holding area with Persons and Works (but still keep an "Untyped" 
designation.)

   Most of the work described is reasoning about objects,  but reasoning 
about types is important too:  ~I~ had to reason about types in order to 
design the procedure above,  and I used my built-in "commonsense KB" to 
infer that "Person and Place are disjoint" and then follow the 
consequences of that.  As time goes on,  I'd like to automate more of 
this procedure,  so having that disjointness agreed upon and entered 
into the dbpedia ontology would be a help.

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    Note that the dbpedia ontology isn't really an ontology of the 
world,  it's really an ontology about wikipedia entries,  and it might 
be a little less tight than something like Cyc would be.  For instance,  
the intersection between "Place" and "Organization" has 147 members,  
and it's not crazy -- many organizations conduct all activities at a 
single place,  such as

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Philadelphia_High_School

    One certainly could create separate concepts for "WPHS the place" 
and "WPHS the organization" and a set of facts describing the relation 
between them,  but that doesn't reflect what's in wikipedia,  or the 
popular understanding which conflates them.  If anything,  I'm surprised 
that this set is as small as it is,  since it could be applied to the 
majority of schools.  Of course you find some that are wrong too,  such as

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anheuser-Busch

     which an is an Organization that has activities at many places.

    The intersection of "Person" and "Place" however,  should be empty.  
I see only 10 members of this set,  one of which is wildly wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achievements_of_Western_Art

and others of which are just sloppy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_A._Fessenden_House (see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_A._Fessenden)



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