Hey again, I posted this idea because you suggested so: https://twitter.com/kidehen/status/543567876402475008
I still object to your comments about this being a visualization, any more than the current "green pages" are. If you care to try, you will retrieve the origin RDF from the application: curl -H "Accept: text/turtle" http://linkeddatahub.com/?uri=http://dbpedia.org/resource/Tim_Berners-Lee What you see is the application working in browser/proxy mode. If you would deploy it on http://dbpedia.org/resource/ and back it with DBPedia SPARQL endpoint, it would be a Linked Data server which also happens to have the same (X)HTML view. What else do you expect? Fine, lets do a competition! On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Kingsley Idehen <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2/6/15 2:12 PM, Martynas Jusevičius wrote: >> >> Kingsley, >> >> with all due respect, what are you talking about? What visualization? >> Did you look at the example? > > > Yes, of course I looked at the example. It's an HTML page. Just like the > DBpedia green pages are HTML pages. > > HTML pages are ultimately visualization of data encoded using HTML > (Hypertext Markup Language). > >> >> It is a generic Linked Data browser interface, which also can be used >> to publish Linked Data datasets such as DBPedia. All it uses to render >> the page is the RDF result it retrieves from the source. > > > It is a Document endowed with controls (courtesy of HTML). The controls in > question enable a user lookup HTTP URIs that identity the subject, > predicates, and objects of relations represented using RDF statements. > That's it! > > >> >> As to "why?" -- because it is much more user-friendly? Is that not a >> goal for DBPedia? > > > And as I said "user-friendly" has nothing to do with it. Even more so when > you are making an utterly subjective qualification -- in a realm that's > supposed to be underpinned by objectivity, courtesy of entity relation > semantics comprehension. > >> >> Let me hear about non-obvious capabilities that are required, and see >> if we can meet them. We're offering to contribute open-source code. > > > You are not the only one that would like to offer an alternative default to > the pages that visualize the entity descriptions in DBpedia's Linked Open > Data Space. Hence my suggestion of an open competition, which would actually > do this project a world of good, ditto the Linked Open Data community in > general. > > The community can vote on their preferred default visualization, how about > that? Totally open and objective :) > > > Kingsley > >> >> >> Martynas >> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Kingsley Idehen <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 2/6/15 11:46 AM, Martynas Jusevičius wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey all, >>>> >>>> as some of you might know, our company has been developing Graphity - >>>> an open-source Linked Data client, which provides browser >>>> functionality and more. >>>> >>>> Here's an instance of it running on Linked Data Hub, rendering DBPedia >>>> resource of Tim Berners-Lee: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://linkeddatahub.com/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FTim_Berners-Lee >>>> >>>> You can compare it with the current interface: >>>> http://dbpedia.org/page/Tim_Berners-Lee >>>> >>>> I think it is safe to say that user-friendliness is on another level. >>> >>> >>>> Also check out the SPARQL endpoint which contains an interactive query >>>> editor. >>>> >>>> I would like the DBPedia community to consider making Graphity the >>>> default Linked Data interface. >>> >>> >>> Why? You are adding a visualization to the mix. The tool in question is >>> already listed on the applications collection[1] page currently >>> maintained >>> for the project. >>> >>> Please remember, Linked Open Data is all about loosely-coupling the >>> following: >>> >>> 1. Object (Entity) Identity >>> 2. Object (Entity) Description Location -- basically the Name->Address >>> indirection that's crucial to any Identity based system >>> 3. Notation used to construct Object (Entity) Descriptions >>> 4. Wire-Protocol used to serialize Object (Entity) Descriptionsover a >>> network >>> 5. Data Access Tools for interrogating, manipulating, and visualizing >>> Object >>> (Entity) Descriptions. >>> >>> DBpedia publishes 5-Star Linked Open Data. You, like many others, have >>> built >>> a nice data visualization tool. Great job! But that isn't a mutually >>> exclusive endeavor relative to DBpedia (the data space), it's a nice >>> addition to the mix :) >>> >>> Do we need an upgrade of the default green pages? Of course! Getting that >>> rolled out is something that's been looping for a while because the >>> capabilities required are a little more challenging than is obvious. >>> >>> Maybe, at some point, we could have a competition for the community to >>> vote >>> on re., new default interface. The beauty of said competition is that >>> outlining the expectations provides a nice route to actually discussing >>> Linked Open Data visualization matters, clearly etc.. >>> >>> >>>> After that, we could take things much >>>> further: enable editing mode, add custom layout modes etc. >>>> >>>> Please let me know what you think. The source code can be found here: >>>> https://github.com/Graphity/linked-data-hub >>>> https://github.com/Graphity/graphity-client >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Martynas >>>> graphityhq.com >>>> >>>> >>> Links: >>> >>> [1] http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Applications -- DBpedia Applications . >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Kingsley Idehen >>> Founder & CEO >>> OpenLink Software >>> Company Web:http://www.openlinksw.com >>> Personal Weblog 1:http://kidehen.blogspot.com >>> Personal Weblog 2:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >>> Twitter Profile:https://twitter.com/kidehen >>> Google+ Profile:https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about >>> LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >>> Personal WebID:http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this >>> >>> > > > -- > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com > Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com > Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen > Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen > Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about > LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. 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