I'm not seeing what you are seeing.

1. The site does not have set details, let alone the personal work done by
contributors of The DeadLists Project.  The site appears to let any
registered user add set lists, so they do not appear interested in the
actual work of Deadlists which is mostly about accuracy of the setlist,
timings and recordings.

2. They *appear* be attributing show info to Deadlists Project:
http://www.songkick.com/concerts/995960-grateful-dead-at-sam-boyd-silver-bow
l even though none of that information is really Deadlists' to begin with.

I will keep my eye on it, though.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu
[mailto:owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Ross Hannan
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:30 AM
To: deadlists@nemesis.CS.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Use of Deadlists Data

Hi
 
I am not sure if you are aware or not, but a UK based company have started a
website (www.songkick.com) for commercial gain that is stripping out show
details from other sites and making the data available via a larger
database.
 
My own site (www.chickenonaunicycle.com) has suffered much of the data being
ripped off by these people without even asking to use it.
 
I notice that they have also pulled a lot of the data from www.deadlists.com
and added it to their site - and I am not sure if you are aware of this.
>From my perspective:
 
They are taking the creative work of others, and please note the
significance of the word "creative", for use in a commercial venture of
their own without asking for permission. Certainly in our case, this is not
work that was simply undertaken over the "one year" that they have been in
business but over many, many years. And somehow they feel it is OK just to
take it and re-use it for their own gain?

 

Our brief efforts have already found numerous entries on their site
attributed to others as the source, but it is actually our work that is
being used. These are cases where we had given our consent for it to be used
after the other party had asked for our permission and assured us, in
writing, that it would not be used for commercial gain. 

 

We have also started to identify entries in their database that are
correctly attributed to us but that they have somehow corrupted, thereby
making our work appear inaccurate: As an example, a simple check of your
entry for the following against our source will demonstrate the problem in
this one case:

 
<http://www.songkick.com/concerts/751527-country-joe-and-the-fish-at-jabberw
ock>
http://www.songkick.com/concerts/751527-country-joe-and-the-fish-at-jabberwo
ck

 

It is difficult to see how they can be stopped from doing what they are
doing, but I wanted to bring this to your attention. I will continue to try
and fight what they are doing from my perspective - you may wish to do the
same.

 

Regards

 

Ross

www.chickenonaunicycle.com
 



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