Bill Graham held the master lease on the Fillmore West. He would have been willing to rent out the venue, under certain circumstances, but the renter would still have used Bill Graham's production crew. In that sense, it was a Bill Graham Presents "production," but not a BGP promotion. The organizers of the show would take the financial risk. BGP would have been paid a fee and provided production services.
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Mark Mumper <brightspringle...@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > Hello Kevin, John, Marc, > > Bill Graham's productions as new leaseholder of the Carousel Ballroom > began on July 5, 1968, and reportedly (noted by Blair Jackson in his > Garcia: An American Life, p.151) he initially named his operation there > Fillmore-Carousel, soon renaming it Fillmore West. The Carousel > Ballroom name, however, also remained on the marquee during the > Fillmore West years and afterward; I never attended any show there, but > remember that marquee from driving into the city on the way to shows at > Winterland or just to access neighborhoods off Van Ness Avenue. > Again, I think that the Airwaves Benefit of March 3 '71 appears not to > have been a Bill Graham production, for reasons given in the email > below (not listed among the Graham produced shows in the Fillmore > box-set album; and the style of the benefit's poster--which notes its > venue as Carousel Ballroom, not Fillmore West--doesn't match the > professional standard of Graham's operation). Thus, I think the > location should be given as Carousel Ballroom, with a notation added > (if this can be verified) that the concert wasn't a Bill > Graham/Fillmore West presentation. > Mark > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: kevin <ke...@shallwego.net> > To: 'Mark Mumper' <brightspringle...@yahoo.com>; 'John Oleynick' > <deadlists@nemesis.CS.Berkeley.EDU>; 'John Oleynick' > <jo...@john.rutgers.edu> > Cc: 'Marc Evans' <deadfr...@adelphia.net> > Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 7:06 PM > Subject: RE: 3/3/71 > > My understanding is that when Bill Graham moved from the Fillmore > Auditorium > in late 1968 to the venue called Carousel Ballroom, he renamed it to > Fillmore West. So all the shows, for instance, beginning in 1969 at > this > location are and should be referenced as Fillmore West. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu > [mailto:owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Mark > Mumper > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:39 PM > To: John Oleynick; John Oleynick > Cc: Marc Evans > Subject: 3/3/71 > The Airwaves Benefit gig, March 3, 1971, appears not to have been a > Bill Graham/Fillmore West presentation, and I ask you to consider > changing the venue name for this date from Fillmore West to Carousel > Ballroom. > The gig doesn't appear in the list of Fillmore and other Bill > Graham-produced San Francisco and Bay Area music events in the > booklet > of the Fillmore: The Last Days album (Fillmore label, distributed by > Columbia, Z3X 31390, released in 1972). And it had an amateurish > promotional poster (reproduced in Ben Fong-Torres's Grateful Dead > Scrapbook [Chronicle Books, 2009], p.29; it's also seen at > <http://www.dead.net/tags/poster>, erroneously(?) dated 1970 and > noting > the venue as Carousel Ballroom. The top of the poster reads BENEFIT > FOR AIR WAVES PEOPLE'S RADIO. (Others on the bill: Shades of Joy > [which may have included Martin Fierro; see > <http://www.redtelephone66.com/2010/08/shades-of-joy-shades-of-joy-1 > 969/>, > Gestalt Fool Theatre Family, New Generation Singers, American Indian > Dancers.) Noted at the bottom: Tickets available from the box office > or from sisters and brothers on the block. (Tickets were $2.50; was > that a dollar less than what might have been a typical Grateful > Dead-headlining Fillmore West ticket-price of the time?) > Bill Graham may have provided use of the venue for the benefit (and > use > of old, deadwood tickets whose blank reverse sides were then stamped > VALID MAR. 3 1971 ONLY Airwaves Benefit see > <http://www.psilo.com/dead/showshow.php?band=1&date=1971-3-3>, but > not, > I think, the use of the name Fillmore West. > >
