In Step-21 tutorial, we have a statement that starts with the following (emphasis is mine):
*"Given the saddle point structure of the first two equations and their similarity to the mixed Laplace formulation we have introduced in step-20 <https://dealii.org/developer/doxygen/deal.II/step_20.html>"* It would be helpful if someone could explain the saddle-point structure of the problem (and/or point to some easily readable online resources). Before coming to this Step-21 tutorial, I have gone through Step-20 tutorial wherein again the saddle-point nature of the problem is not explained. In fact, it is entirely glossed over: *"It is a well-known fact stated in almost every book on finite element theory that if one chooses discrete finite element spaces for the approximation of u,p inappropriately, then the resulting discrete saddle-point problem is instable and the discrete solution will not converge to the exact solution."* I acknowledge that the deal.II tutorials is not intended to educate the user on such theory. However, it is generally helpful to have one or two sentences explaining the saddle-point nature of the problem and or point to accessible online resource(s). I have also finished watching Lecture 33.25 a couple of times which discusses saddle-point problems, but even this feels a bit too high-level to me i.e. all the important details are skipped. For example, the PDE is posed as an energy minimization problem without explaining why (the specific words being *"where exactly this step from here to here comes from is not terribly important, but if you will believe me that I can rewrite this equation in this form, now....."*), and the rest of the lecture (the inf/sup LBB condition) is also a bit too mathematical for me. I apologise upfront and would like to clarify that I mean no disrespect to either the tutorial authors or Prof Bangerth. Together you have created a mountain of phenomenal quality work which I am thankful for. However, I'd really appreciate if there was some "simple test" or practical advice to determine whether our own PDEs and DAEs belong to the saddle-point category or not, i.e. how to detect the presence of saddle-point nature of the PDEs, just simulate with Qp elements and look for a checkerboard pattern in the results? Regards, Krishna -- The deal.II project is located at http://www.dealii.org/ For mailing list/forum options, see https://groups.google.com/d/forum/dealii?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "deal.II User Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/dealii/cfdf7943-eb48-4a71-9007-35114f7e3df2%40googlegroups.com.
