On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 02:24:01PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > If we dont manage to decide in the next 14 days, I personally think that it > will be very hard/unrealistic to gather sponsors in 2012 and if we fail to do > that, things will definitly become considerably more difficult. At the end of > the year there is quite some easy to get money floating around, but one needs > to apply for this earlier.
Venues shouldn't influence the majority of the sponsorship, should it? > > But unfortunately it's premature to make any "final" > > decision until there is at least one plausible option presented, > > including among other things a plausible budget. > > The budgets we had at Le Camp were/are IMO plausibe, have they still not been > added to svn? I don't think that's agreed. Any budget which remotely looks close has ZERO travel sponsorship. (and the best budget anyone has produced still have deficits, despite assuming 50% more sponsorship than last year) My last email had a kind-of-fallback plan plan for lecamp, but that involves no attendees. Any plan that kind of makes it work involves huge amounts of sponsorship, or moving a large portion of the costs onto attendees. Since that time, there are lots of doubts raised about getting this many professional attendees. I think it's worth asking if any of these will be affordable, and (more usefully) what tradeoffs we'd have to make at different levels of fundraising: 50% more than last year, 100% more than last year, and so on. > > > Surely one can look for dc13 sponsors now as the situation is > > Yes -- as has been said, it's late already. And the best way to show > > that any of the possible Swiss budgets are plausible would be to quickly > > get some promises of cash from non-repeat sponsors, to demonstrate that > > we can expect the sponsorship income to be greater than the last few > > years. > > we already have 46k secured for Le Camp, quite very probably 51k. Thats way > more then ever. (I do actually miss some applause here.) I am guessing that 40 kCHF comes from the "anonymous donors". No one has talked about this yet, but this I have gathered that this isn't a "donation", this is a loan to be repaid later... not that dissimilar to what Debian provides once we have a reasonable budget. And, while the donors nominally say we can keep it if we need it, what I head said they want it back before _before_ travel sponsorship... so even if we decide to use the money to fill a deficit, it can't be used for travel sponsorship. Also, if these donors feel they misjudged the financial risk of this lending, then it could produce bad blood... - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - pyke: up 36 days, 8:36 | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free" _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list [email protected] http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
