I'll introduce the discussion, I'd rather not have someone as worthy as you
be shot up on Debian-Boot email list.

Obviously, we are more civilized on this email list, but it seems that
Debian-Boot is the wild and wooly frontier where new suggestions are met
with barbs and malice. Sounds like a retarded group that doesn't realize
the harm they do, but that's typical of the 21st century and for centuries
before. We can only lead by example.

Best wishes,

David

On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 11:44 AM Samuel Thibault <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le ven. 31 déc. 2021 10:12:43 -0500, a ecrit:
> > The network-manager package should be installed by default to ANY
> installation
>
> Well, not "any".
>
> Again, that's where *discussion* needs to be done. And not here, but
> where such discussions belong: with the people who know about all the
> pros and cons of the various solutions. That is,
> [email protected]
>
> I guess an answer to the concerns being raised is that we should
> have a "textual desktop" item in the list of tasks during debian
> installer. So that all desktop-like thingies such as network-manager get
> installed without having to install gnome or mate, without impacting all
> installations (embedded systems do not want desktop-like bloat).
>
> Again, I'd really like *not* to have to raise such discussions myself on
> debian-boot. Again, such things should *not* rely on just one person.
>
> Samuel
>

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