David, It said a choice was called: "something else". Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. To: K0LNY Cc: Geoff Shang ; debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 11:01 PM Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader
What was the "something else"? I don't know, and I can't tell you unless you tell me. This page says you will have choices, but doesn't list the choices: 6.3. Using Individual Components (debian.org) It does say that right at package selection you have a working Debian system. The Package Selection part says this helpful thing. The “Desktop environment” task will install a graphical desktop environment. The instructions referenced above with the link says the default graphical desktop environment is GNOME but I've found that it installs MATE. I cannot find anywhere where it tells me where the Package Selections are, so I made a vmware installation of the latest Debian Net Install. 1) Debian desktop environment, (*) 2) ... GNOME, 3) ... xfce, 4) ... GNOME Flashback, 5) ... KDE Plasma, 6) ... Cinnamon, 7) ... MATE, (*) 8) ... LXDE, 9) ... LXQt, 10) ... web server, 11) ... ssh server, 12) ... standard system utilities, (*) 1, 7 and 12 will be installed as default if you do nothing. So for a CLI system, I'm going to just install 12, standard system utilities. But first since I already have a virtual system, I am going to install the Default: 1) Debian desktop environment, 7) ... MATE, and 12) ... standard system utilities. The system comes up in MATE with MATE programs, no GNOME as the Debian pages https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst said. I deleted the Virtual Debian installation and reinstalled just picking #12, standard system utilities. This time I had no networking like I had with the Default installation, 1, 7, and 12. Also the programs nmcli and nmtui both were not available, so I have no way to access the Internet. It might be my Virtual Box settings, I've had to play around with them before to get connectivity, but the default settings would not allow me to ping google.com. So it looks like you'll still need to either install a GUI then purge the GUI programs for MATE or connect to Ethernet or use the difficult for me to remember console commands to connect. My notebook only has WiFi.. Regards, David On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:47 PM K0LNY <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: David, The way the menus were laid out over SSH, it sounded like #13 was something else But I wasn't sure if it was stating that this was #13, but all the other choices were desktop environments, which I knew I didn't want. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. To: K0LNY Cc: Geoff Shang ; debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 1:46 PM Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader Glenn, You didn't say what choice #13 is. Just select nothing at all. Then get smxi and install your console browsers and utilities. SMXI always is at http://smxi.org/smxi.zip. Download and unzip and the file you want to run is "smxi". So chmod +x that file and run it using root from the directory you downloaded it to by using ./smxi the smxi script will move itself where it belongs. Run smxi as root and follow the prompts to update and upgrade then go to Program Install and install Console Browsers, Console Utilities and Ceni which is an accessible network manager. Then you'll have a functional console system just remember the command for Ceni has a capital "C". Install nmcli and nntui when you have networking using "apt install nmcli nntui". Does anyone remember the very old text menu for Debian? It allowed users to select programs by description, they were all console interface programs. Regards, David On Tue, May 30, 2023, 12:55 K0LNY <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: Does this install anything CLI only? I ran it, and the menus via SSH are sketchy, I wanted to select "something else" and I think it is #13, but I was afraid of doing a desktop install, because if I accidentally did that, the OMV won't install, and I would have to start over with my Debian CLI setup. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Shang" <ge...@quitelikely.com> To: <debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:52 AM Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader > On Tue, 30 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > >> I don't even know what you're talking about. If I knew what your message >> meant and how to do it, I'd gladly do it, but I don't understand your >> message, someone here must. > > In Debian, there is a package called tasksel. The program that it > provides runs as part of the installation, but you can also presumably run > it at any time. > > This is the part of the installation where you can choose categories of > software which wil be installed. This is the part where I said that you > can install a text only ssytem but not installing any of the desktop > environments. > > If I run tasksel on my installed system, I get the following screen: > > Software selection > ------------------ > > You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined > collections of software. > > 1. Debian desktop environment 4. ... GNOME Flashback 7. ... MATE 10. > web server > 2. ... GNOME 5. ... KDE Plasma 8. ... LXDE 11. > SSH server > 3. ... Xfce 6. ... Cinnamon 9. ... LXQt 12. > laptop > > (Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.) > > Choose software to install: > > > > This has changed a bit over time. You can see in the above list that > options 1 through 9 are all GUI-related, with Web Server, SSH Server and > Laptop as the remaining ptions. I know in the past there were things like > print server. > > Anyway, Samuel is suggesting reporting a bug against the tasksel package, > requesting that a "textual desktop" option be added and listing which > packages that this option should install. > > You can use reportbug to do this. > > I've not used reportbug in some time so I can't really speak to using it, > but it should be installed and I'm guessing there's documentation for it. > > HTH, > Geoff. >
