Hi,

Le 18/02/2026 à 12:25, Jeremy Bicha a écrit :
On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 5:06 AM Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Sid, the new evince peackage no longer enables me to read pdf files
with orca. The browse mode with f7 moves the caret, but no screen reader
feedback. atril works, but not evince.

We dont know wether the problem is related to something not implemented
in Evince 49, or at-spi does not have some useful thing. Is it due to
Debian or upstream? The response is not easy to do.

We plan to reportbug to evince maintainer, but I think the support of
a11y team is useful tu help upstream devs or maintainers of the package
to track the problem. Otehrwise, atril may be the appropriate choixe for
future debian releases where we want to have pdf readable.

If you are able to also report this bug upstream, please do so.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/-/issues

OK we will dot so


It was a huge project for Papers to support the orca screen reader.
The UI for Papers is written in Rust so it's not directly helpful to
Evince which doesn't use Rust. Papers is basically a fork of Evince.

Indeed, after a test, I confirm that Papers works with orca. It is a good news, since it becomes the default pdf viewer in Debian/GNOME. I was not aware of this, did not know what Papers is. Now I will test it deeply. I just hope it will not prevent future features, in particular to handle PDF forms access if we manage to address it someday in orca.


I apologize for not testing the screen reader before updating Evince
to 49. That update is already in Testing.

Well no problem, I test sid to be able to report such problems before they happen in stable.

Best regards,


Papers is much better maintained than Evince currently and is the
default in recent GNOME distros including RHEL 10; we ran out of time
and energy to make the swap for Debian GNOME 13 but the swap has
happened for Debian GNOME in Testing. Otherwise, atril is available.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha


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