On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 13:09 +0000, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> Dear folks,
> 
> I noticed from reading an article by Eric S Raymond 
> (http://catb.org/%7Eesr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html) 
> that according to him Intel released the source code for its own graphics 
> processors to the Linux community.
> 
> He therefore encouraged Linux users to buy the intel hardware to encourage 
> the company to keep doing this.
> 
> I tried googling to see how easy it was for an intel PC with e.g. the extreme 
> graphics chipset stuck in it to have Debian installed on it and also how easy 
> the OS recognised the graphics chip relative to e.g. putting an Nvidia or ATI 
> graphics card into the machine.

Trivial.

> Someone told me that now ATI have released the source for their graphics 
> cards to the linux community.
> 
> Is this true?

There's been a large code dump. Nothing useful has come of it yet.

> What would suit me is being able to buy a 64 bit PC with a graphics chip in 
> it which Linux (Debian) recognizes very easily.

Plenty of such machines available. Laptops or desktops or DIY.

> I don't mind if the graphics 3D acceleration is not quite as fast as say an 
> Nvidia card if the installation is reliable and predictable.

ATI under Linux is about 3x slower than NVidia under Linux. ATI with
open-source drivers is about 3x slower than that. Does "9x slower, give
or take" come under the heading of "not quite as fast"?

> Talking to intel about this was hard work.  It wanted me to talk to PC 
> resellers who thought I wanted to buy something unusual that they didn't sell 
> very often.
>
>
> It was a bit like trying to buy a washing machine from a hardware store in 
> Soviet Russia in the 1960s.

Or perhaps more like trying to buy washing machine belts from their
corporate HQ, rather than a consumer machine from a consumer company?

> Has anyone heard of someone who bought or built such an Intel based PC and 
> made it work?

Lots. Try http://system76.com/index.php?cPath=27 or
https://secure.dnuk.com/store/workstations.php#core2duo as first-effort
links.

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