Let me try to tidy this up a bit.
> >> Subject: Re: intel extreme graphics chipset> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: >> [email protected]> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:16:10 +0100>> On >> Tue, 2008-05-06 at 13:09 +0000, Michael Fothergill wrote:>> Dear folks,>>>> I noticed from reading an article by Eric S Raymond (http://catb.org/%7Eesr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html) that according to him Intel released the source code for its own graphics processors to the Linux community.>>>> He therefore encouraged Linux users to buy the intel hardware to encourage the company to keep doing this.>>>> I tried googling to see how easy it was for an intel PC with e.g. the extreme graphics chipset stuck in it to have Debian installed on it and also how easy the OS recognised the graphics chip relative to e.g. putting an Nvidia or ATI graphics card into the machine.>> Trivial. Sounds encouraging if I can figure out how to buy a machine with the graphics chipset in it.>>> Someone told me that now ATI have released the source for their graphics cards to the linux community.>>>> Is this true?> > There's been a large code dump. Nothing useful has come of it yet.>>> What would suit me is being able to buy a 64 bit PC with a graphics chip in it which Linux (Debian) recognizes very easily.> > Plenty of such machines available. Laptops or desktops or DIY.>> > I don't mind if the graphics 3D acceleration is not quite as fast as say an > Nvidia card if the installation is reliable and predictable.> > ATI under Linux is about 3x slower than NVidia under Linux. ATI with> > open-source drivers is about 3x slower than that. Does "9x slower, give> or > take" come under the heading of "not quite as fast"? That would fine for me. >> Talking to intel about this was hard work. It wanted me to talk to PC resellers who thought I wanted to buy something unusual that they didn't sell very often.>>>>>> It was a bit like trying to buy a washing machine from a hardware store in Soviet Russia in the 1960s.> > Or perhaps more like trying to buy washing machine belts from their> > corporate HQ, rather than a consumer machine from a consumer company ?The corporate HQ's web page that was supposed to help me find a reseller didn't work using Iceweasel. I had to phone Intel again and get them to run it for me (I guess using Windows Internet Explorer browser) and then give me the phone number of an authorised Intel PC reseller. Contacting the reseller took quite a bit of effort. When I did get through to a sales rep, they didn't know very much about the extreme graphics chipset. They thought it was something unusual that would need to be a custom built PC that they would email me about at some point. At that point I thought that I would have a much better chance of finding someone who could sell me such a machine by posting a query about it on this site than talking to Intel, googling PC resellers or using a oujii board etc.>> > Has anyone heard of someone who bought or built such an Intel based PC and > made it work?> > Lots. Try http://system76.com/index.php?cPath=27 or> > https://secure.dnuk.com/store/workstations.php#core2duo as first-effort> > links. Thank you very much for your help here. MF Jo Shields \> | Systems Manager, |> \ Oxford Supercomputing Centre /> _________________________________________________________________ Discover and Win with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000007ukm/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
