On 10/17/2014 02:38 PM, Christopher Browne wrote:
On 9 October 2014 19:49, Lennart Sorensen
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 09:25:23AM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote:
> Can *anything* justify creating a problem that can't be debugged?
I noticed on a reboot yesterday that there was a 5 minute countdown
shutting down samba by the looks of it. Seems to be bug #762002.
I suppose that this invalidates one of the functionality claims that
was part
of the basis for adoption...
Specifically...
https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd
Well, they certainly write a glowing review of themselves, do they not?
That's a very well written and convincing doc, but it does seem that not
enough attention has been paid to the issues that have been raised here.
On my system I get strange messages about 'start jobs' and 'stop jobs' which
come with one minute, thirty second countdowns. I don't know why it has to
be 90 seconds, would 60 seconds not do the trick? 30 seconds just
totally wrong?
Still, the big question is: are these fixable glitches and bugs, or do
they point
to those deeper, fundamental problems that we've talked about?
But, to be devil's advocate: One thing about the systemd doc above that
struck me
as a sound argument was that starting a service is ... starting a
service, and that
whereas that mostly happens at init, it makes sense that whatever
code/method
is used to do it at init may as well be used generally. No?