On September 9, 2021 4:17:08 PM UTC, Vagrant Cascadian <[email protected]> 
wrote:

>I think I missed that decree...  I daresay, this argument has been
>running around in circles, based on some false assertions...

and a sense of "entitlement". yes, you, Pete Batard: you carry a strong 
"entitlement" vibe.  an expectation that debian "should" do something or be 
something, and complaining about how debian isn't as suits *you*.

you know how that can be ascertained? each time soneone says "if you feel that 
way here's how you can contribute" you *don't reply* with a "thank you i'll get 
right on that".

as vagrant points out, and so did paul, debian is about *volunteering* and 
being empowered and empowering others by getting down and dirty and actually 
*doing something*.

if you had said, "debian doesn't work as i demand it to be when compared to the 
expectations in my own head THEREFORE i TOOK RESPONSIBILITY for that and here's 
a patch whom do i send it to?" *now* you got people's attention in a positive 
way, even though the start of the sentence, if you actually genuinely wrote it 
like that, would make you look like a bit of a tit, yet, hilariously, you'd fit 
right it.

at the moment as things stand you've managed to piss off at least one long-term 
debian contributor, are getting strong repeated group-reinforced diplomatic 
hints from several other long-term developers, and have had even me raise 
eyebrows several times at the rather alarming misassertions you've made.

debian *isn't* a "one thing" (it's thousands of completely independent 
sovereign volunteers). it's certainly not a company. you don't get to make 
demands of "debian", it's like pissing up-wind: it's just going to come right 
back at you, in your own face.

please, take the hint, ok? *we know* it's a pissy situation with non-free 
firmware. *listen* to the reactions and feedback you're getting, and either 
start helping or for goodness sake at least stop damn well complaining and 
making thousands of people on this list feel miserable and underappreciated for 
the work that they do. unpaid.

l.

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