On Sun, 2026-05-17 07:23:13, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Le Sun, May 17, 2026 at 09:08:20AM +0530, Aryan Karamtoth a écrit :
> > > Hello,
> > 
> > > I started to work on a new Debian Pure Blend project. I named the
> > > project "Debian Marlin".
> > 
> > > Goal: Debian Marlin shall be a Debian for end users to run
> > > Debian on Desktop / Laptops. The system shall provide a set of
> > > pre-installed applications for daily use. My idea is to provide a
> > > set of documentation and tools to get familiarize with Debian
> > > GNU/Linux.
> > > 
> > >  "Getting started with Debian GNU/Linux"
> > > 
> > > Debian Marlin Desktop use Xfce4 as desktop environment and
> > > includes applications like evolution, libreoffice, a digital
> > > photo organizer, ebook reader, chat application, audio- and
> > > video-player, also tools like password manager, backup tool and
> > > financial-accounting.
> > > 
> > > Under the hood, there should be all important lib / system tools
> > > provided for daily use (e.g. gvfs-backends, cups-filters,
> > > avahi,...).
> > > 
> > > The project is on salsa:
> > > 
> > >  https://salsa.debian.org/StefanKropp/debian-marlin
> > > 
> > > There is also a small wiki page:
> > > 
> > >  https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopMarlin
> > > 
> > > The next steps will be to provide documentation and a
> > > marlin-desktop-tweaks application (something like this
> > >https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopMarlin?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=marlin-tweask.png
> > > 
> > ><https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopMarlin?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=marlin-tweask.png>)
> > 
> > (I'm not subscribed to this list, please CC me for replies)
> > 
> > Hi Stefan,
> > 
> > Just my two cents, I think GNOME would be better suited for something like
> > this because there are also GNOME Circle apps as well as an entire ecosystem
> > of GTK4 apps out there for something like this and someone who's new to
> > Linux and considering Debian would most likely pick GNOME as it's the
> > default DE.
> 
> Maybe it should be more clearly marked as a Debian for your old / second hand 
> /
> low powered system?

Basically, I don't know who will install this blend, but yes.
Because of Win10EOL GNU/Linux is getting a topic in "Repair
Cafés". I also did one workshop about GNU/Linux. Sometimes the
Hardware is older. I worry about some performance problems with
GNOME. Personally, I don't use GNOME. I installed xfce on desktop
systems for my family and it worked very well. I just decided to
use what I know (at least a little).

> If one installs a standard gnome desktop with calamares, does one end up with
> all popular applications pre-installed?

I have to check, but I think so.

> > And secondly afaik you can only install blends via the Debian Installer (I
> > haven't used the DebInstaller in ages, correct me if im wrong) not the live
> > ISOs, which to say is not very straightforward for an absolute beginner
> > because Calamares makes the installation so easy for beginners.
> > 
> > I'm not sure if there's a workaround to make a special installation image
> > with Calamares for this blend but if there's a chance , it's gonna make the
> > purpose of this blend more relevant as it will be easy to install and use.
> > 
> > Overall, I like this idea and I could chime in and help if I ever find some
> > free time. Would be great if you open an irc channel or a matrix channel so
> > that we can discuss more about it and invite others who might be interested.

I think Calamares would be very helpful.

BTW, I created an ITP bug: 1136883. There was also some feedback.
I will try to explain more about my motivation and put in into
the wiki page.

> There is OFTC/#debian-marlin , I believe it's not (yet?) plumbed / bridged to
> matrix.

Yes, I'm on IRC and XMPP.

-- 
Stefan

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