On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Frans Pop <[email protected]> wrote: > On Monday 19 January 2009, Mike Grice wrote: >> So I guess the salient points from all the above are: >> >> 1) the debian-installer is not detecting the correct modules for the >> hdd and net even though theyre present in the udebs >> >> 2) the initramfs-tools config on the installed system doesn't load the >> relevant modules by default >> >> 3) the text console doesn't work once the install is finished and the >> system is up as normal > > Just to make sure there are no false expectancies: we are about to upload > the RC2 release of Debian Installer, which is expected to be the final > release for Lenny. > > The issues you describe here are clearly not bugs, but a new feature. The > detection/loading of modules is something that should preferably be done > automatically by the kernel, although it can probably be worked around in > the installer (if there is a clear way to recognize _when_ the modules > should be loaded).
I'm not a d-i expert, but I guess the question is valid: who takes responsibility for picking up hardware pertinent to installation? I (maybe incorrectly) assumed that the installer 'scanned' then enabled this as appropriate. If its not the installer, can you let me know which subsystem is? I'm hoping to get Debian/sparc adopted fully at work, but I'll not be able to do this unless it's a trivial deviation from official release to remotely reproduce any such change. > The "serial console" issue is probably relatively trivial to solve, but > should still be done very carefully. I agree with this part. It's really the fault of the LDOM software, the changing of type of console is a bit silly and creates extra headache for users and maintainers. I'm happy to have my own implementation of the changes needed to /etc/inittab or whatever, on a site basis (if anything generic gets cooked up of course i'll offer it back). > Conclusion: the needed changes will NOT be done before the release of > Lenny. However, there is a slight chance they could be included in a > later stable update. That mostly depends on whether someone is willing to > do the work required for that. I guess my main problem with that is that it rules out Debian for me until at least Squeeze if I have to make big changes from the default (which means I will end up on Solaris or can the whole project entirely). It's a shame, I love Debian and would love to implement it. If I could get a better understanding of the subsystems that are responsible for making the decision what modules to probe, I could try and learn and take a look and feed back the changes. What bit of the Debian system decides which modules to load? Why does it work for one driver and not another? Thanks, Mike. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected]

