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Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 5 Mar 2004 20:08:59 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 05 12:08:59 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mail.acu.edu (nicanor.acu.edu) [150.252.135.93] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1AzLcx-0007oK-00; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:08:59 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.acu.edu by mail.acu.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:08:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from acu.edu ([150.252.128.52]) by mail.acu.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:08:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:08:54 -0600 From: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: installation-reports bug To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040221) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_05 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_05 X-Spam-Level: Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: I believe it was the i386 100MB CD from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/, downloaded about 24 Feb 2004 uname -a: 2.4.22-1-386 (having already upgraded at this time, I don't have the other details) Date: about 2 March 2004 Method: Booted off the CD; configured networking, dual-boot with WinXP, after base install reconfigured sources.list to point to unstable and dist-upgraded Machine: Dell Optiplex GX270 Processor: 2.20 GHz Celeron Memory: 256MB Root Device: 40 GB IDE /dev/hda (brand/model unknown) Root Size/partition table: Disk /dev/hda: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 2550 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS WinXP /dev/hda2 2551 4998 19663560 5 Extended /dev/hda5 2551 3766 9767488+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dos (for sharing between the two OSes) /dev/hda6 3767 3790 192748+ 83 Linux / /dev/hda7 3791 3814 192748+ 83 Linux /boot /dev/hda8 3815 4179 2931831 83 Linux /usr /dev/hda9 4180 4270 730926 83 Linux /var /dev/hda10 4271 4732 3710983+ 83 Linux /home /dev/hda11 4733 4856 995998+ 83 Linux /tmp /dev/hda12 4857 4998 1140583+ 82 Linux swap Output of lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev c2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB SMBus Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02) Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked: [O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems: [O] Mount partitions: [E] Install base system: [O] Install boot loader: [E] Reboot: [O] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: First, apologies for not taking better notes/remembering better/having this form in front of me when I did the install. Second . . . When mounting partitions, after I mounted the FAT32 partition on /dos, the swap partition was listed as already mounted. I don't remember the exact details, but it seems that I had to unmount swap and then remount, or maybe do the same to the /dos partition. When it came time to install the boot loader, it did not offer me a chance to dual-boot, nor did it include the WinXP boot capability; I had to manually fix that later (which for me wasn't a problem, but for a newbie it would've been). In the "Configure and Mount Partitions" screen, I was surprised to see that the nomenclature had changed from something like "/dev/hda" to "/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target-/lun0/part1". A help screen with what this terminology means, how it relates to the older terminology, and why the change, would go a long way toward making the installation friendlier. When deciding on the type of file system to use (ext2, reiser, etc), it would be very helpful to have a help screen with a brief explanation of the different types, pros and cons, when I might want to use this vs that, should I mix types, etc. I really like the "Go Back" button on several of the screens. On the partitioning screen, it was not clear that some of my partitions would not be overwritten/reformatted; it would be very helpful if the screen marked such partitions with something like "won't be touched" or "leave as is", etc. During the initialization, there needs to be some feedback; once I hit the "continue" button (or whatever it was), the next minute or few the computer just sat there, and I had no idea if the installation had hung, or if the partitions were being initialized, or what. If I had been the impatient type, especially a newbie coming from the world of Windows where reboots are expected, I might would've hit the reset button to "recover from the freeze-up". I made a note about "what if I don't want to" in relation to installing LILO onto the hard disk. I don't remember the details, but I suspect I wasn't given a choice about installing LILO. That choice needs to be offered. I have another note about "what does this long string mean '/dev/ide/host0.../disc'". I suspect that's another suggestion to have a help screen explaining the new nomenclature for dealing with drives. Overall, the installer has a lot of promise, but the whole reason for it (as I understand it), is to make the process friendlier. In that vein, I offer the above comments. -- Kent --------------------------------------- Received: (at 236351-done) by bugs.debian.org; 16 Mar 2004 10:32:25 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 16 02:32:25 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from lml.bas.bg [195.96.224.121] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1B3Bs1-00077V-00; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:32:25 -0800 Received: from anton by lml.bas.bg with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B3Bwv-0008Oj-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 12:37:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 12:37:29 +0200 From: Anton Zinoviev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Thanks for your installation report Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_12 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_12 X-Spam-Level: Hi! A while ago you posted an installation report. It has been procesed by the d-i team and the problems you reported were assigned to the appropriate components of the installer. You will receive separate notifications when they become fixed. We have just prepared a new beta3 release of our installer. At least for i386 it fixes most of the problems you reported. However they are still open for some of the non-i386 architectures. You are welcome to test the new beta3 release and send us feedback again. Thanks again for your report. Anton Zinoviev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]