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Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 20 Jan 2004 18:36:38 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 20 10:36:38 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from lns-th2-5f-81-56-227-253.adsl.proxad.net (kheops.homeunix.org) [81.56.227.253] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Aj0jt-0006cE-00; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:36:38 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kheops.homeunix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB204052; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:36:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from kheops.homeunix.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kheops [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28265-10; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:36:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org (mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org [192.168.1.3]) by kheops.homeunix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB327405A; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:35:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org (Postfix, from userid 7426) id AA07DD05D; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:55:29 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" From: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: installation-reports: Installation report: Debconf abuse by several packages X-Mailer: reportbug 2.37 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:55:29 +0100 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at kheops.frmug.org Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_01_20 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_01_20 X-Spam-Level: Package: installation-reports Severity: normal This is a standard Debian Installer report. However, it is not really interesting as is : everything work quite well and all d-i problems are indeed known problems. The problem is elsewhere: ALL DD, please go to the end of the report and look at the number of screens users are shown. Twenty-Seven screens, several of these belonging to obscure packages Joe User is even not aware of. This report will lead to subsequent bug reports against the given packages asking them to *lower* the debconf priority they use. I will make another installation with ALL tasks selected in tasksel. I'm already prepared to a nightmare..... PLEASE fellow DD's, STOP ABUSING DEBCONF. Avoid notes about software upgrades when no upgrade is done. Avoid using high priority questions for anything that has a reasonable default. Stop thinking that your package is the most important in the distro and thus needs prompting for each and every setting it has. Or at least, do this at low priority. INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: beta2 businesscard ISO i386 uname -a: Date: 2004/01/20 Method: Network, proxied Machine: VmWare 4 Processor: Memory: Root Device: SCSI Root Size/partition table: Empty disk Output of lspci: Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked: [O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems: [O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system: [O] Install boot loader: [O] Reboot: [O] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: (French as installation language) Problems fixed in CVS: - Keyboard chooser in english - Detecting hardware incorrectly translated to "détecter le matériel réseau" - Create xxx file system not translated - Final keyboard is US layout (nasty bug in console-data, fixed) Selected tasks: Desktop environment Linux Standard Base X window system Broadband Internet connection Mail server Conventional Unix Server (not sure) Web server C and C++ French environment Custom kernel compilation Config screens: Format: Xs, Yq, Zd, Tu s=number of screens shown (aka how many times to press Enter!) d=number of questions with reasonable defaults which IMHO shouldn't have been asked (guess what "d" is for...) u=number of untranslated questions n=number of useless notes - pcmcia-cs : 3s 1d 2u 0n - dictionaries-common : 1s 1d 0u 0n - nfs-common : 1s 0d 0u 1n - ssh : 1s 0d 0u 1n - dictionaries-common : 1s 1d 0u 0n - apache-common : 1s 0d 0u 1n - libpaper1 : 1s 0d 1u 1n #226254 - efax : 2s 0d 2u 2n - fetchmail : 2s 0d 0u 2n - gdm : 1s 0d 0u 0n - libc-client2002debian : 1s 1d 1u 0n - xserver-xfree86 : 7s 0d 1u 0n (no autodetect by default) (mouse autodetected) - dictionaries-common : 1s 1d 0u 0n (bug?) - libc-client2002debian : 1s 1d 1u 0n - dictionaries-common : 1s 1d 0u 0n - exi4-config : 2s 0d 0u 0n _____________ TOTAL 27s 7d 8u 8n General problem : when screens are too long, debconf dialog interface shows a right cursor and a OK button. No novice user will then type "Down" for seeing the rest of the screen...and thus will miss the last part of the shown information. The "OK" button should be something like a "More" button and should by default allow scrolling though the text. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux mykerinos 2.6.0 #4 Sat Jan 17 10:16:28 CET 2004 i686 Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8) --------------------------------------- Received: (at 228755-done) by bugs.debian.org; 3 May 2004 05:55:55 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 02 22:55:55 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from onera.onera.fr [144.204.65.4] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BKWQk-0002Ak-00; Sun, 02 May 2004 22:55:54 -0700 Received: from cc-mykerinos.onera (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by onera.onera.fr with ESMTP id i435trYl002884; Mon, 3 May 2004 07:55:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: by mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org (Postfix, from userid 7426) id 11F05D0A2; Mon, 3 May 2004 07:39:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 07:39:06 +0200 From: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug#228755: Acknowledgement (installation-reports: Installation report: Debconf abuse by several packages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-message-flag: Outlook is a good virus spreading tool. It can send mail, too. X-pot_a_miel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: X-CrossAssassin-Score: 1 In early April, I did anothger full Debian install and got another list of packages with debconf "abuse". This list is far shorter than the original one, so this bug report may be closed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]