On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 07:21:34AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Although being able to suggest usernames is a nice feature, my wife (who > > rarely has occasion to add users or install systems :) also stumbled at > > this point in the installer during a usability test, expecting this to > > be a prompt about a username rather than a full name. It may be that > > she's atypically steeped in Unix tradition, and that most newcomers to > > Debian will think in terms of people names rather than usernames, but at > > least some people are confused by the present order. > > I've seen Steve's wife confused and I confirm...:-) > > This change was motivated by wishlist bug which, at this time, seemed > rather logical when dealing with nonUnix people. Please asume smart people.
> > However, as James reaction shows, people used to older installs will > nearly automatically apply the old scheme (login, then "real" name) > without reading the bloody screens...:-). I specifically remember > Steve just saying Patty "just read the screens".... > > Indeed the prompt in the shadow package should here be far more clear > (such as "Real name (first name+family name)" or whatever...). In the > past, we had "Debian User" here which made evident what was > asked....however, there were also wishlist bugs for removing this > default as a lot of dumb user installs then had "Debian User" as gecos > for the first created user. Gee, please educate users. There is no harm in default on "Debian User" for gecos. They are installing a Unix system. The computer wants and uses usernames. It does not care about the gecos field, except for E-mail. Hiding technical information will boomerang us later. > > This is really tricky. IMHO, changing this template would be good. I > wait for us to get a better access to the shadow package so that > changing this template becomes easy (as well as fixing translations). Okay, sounds good. Cheers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
