So as a result of this hotplug problem, I've been through the install for sarge a couple of times in the last few days, and this last one was the most painfull install I've ever done (I've been running my own linux box for 9 years now). When it gives you a choice for what kind of machine to install (e.g. desktop, file server, manually select packages, etc.) it would be really nice if one of those choices was "development machine". I selected "desktop" once, and it installed gigabytes of stuff I'm never going to use, and not very much in the way of what I would consider mission-critical tools.
For example, it was missing at least the following: gcc manpages-dev make g++ cvs termcap-compat (for running emacs in -nw mode) libc6-dev xlibs-dev Now that's all fine and good if you're up to date with your IT, but when my gcc barfed because it couldn't find stdio.h, it was not immediately obvious to me which package takes care of that (as I've never had any linux install not include libc and friends before). It also took me a good half-hour of research for me to figure out that emacs couldn't run in no-window mode because it needed the termcap compatibility package. In short, it would be nice if the installer had a category that would leave the box set up for happy hacking (preferably without all the office/"productivity" bloat, too). - martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

