Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT
Debian-installer-version: yesterday, http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc1/sarge-i386-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux ebbjw 2.4.26-1-686 #1 Thu Jul 22 13:00:49 JST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux Date: today Method: How did you install? What did you boot off? If network install, from where? Proxied? netinst CD, booted from an extern USB CD, installed base system, rest from the network Machine: Thinkpad x20 Processor: 600 MHz PIII Memory: 192MB Root Device: IDE Root Size/partition table: Feel free to paste the full partition table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where. Disk /dev/hda: 12.0 GB, 12068904960 bytes 15 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24944 cylinders Units = cylinders of 945 * 512 = 483840 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 8267 3906126 83 Linux /dev/hda2 8268 9300 488092+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda3 9301 24944 7391790 83 Linux Output of lspci and lspci -n: 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) 0000:00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03) 0000:00:08.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 80) 0000:00:08.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 80) 0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c556B CardBus [Tornado] (rev 20) 0000:00:0a.1 Communication controller: 3Com Corporation Mini PCI 56k Winmodem (rev 20) 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic Crystal CS4281 PCI Audio (rev 01) 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) 0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03) 0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03) 0000:00:07.0 0680: 8086:7110 (rev 02) 0000:00:07.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01) 0000:00:07.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01) 0000:00:07.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 03) 0000:00:08.0 0607: 1180:0476 (rev 80) 0000:00:08.1 0607: 1180:0476 (rev 80) 0000:00:0a.0 0200: 10b7:6056 (rev 20) 0000:00:0a.1 0780: 10b7:1007 (rev 20) 0000:00:0b.0 0401: 1013:6005 (rev 01) 0000:01:00.0 0300: 1002:4c4d (rev 64) Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot worked: [O] Configure network HW: [E] Config network: [E] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems: [O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system: [O] Install boot loader: [O] Reboot: [O] Comments/Problems: 1) my network card did not work -- the 3com 556b. This seems to be a 2.6 kernel issue. After I have (much later) installed the 2.4, everything started working fine. But during the installation process I had a hard time. It seems to me that the installer does not handle such problem gracefully: a) it did detect my network card, but id did not notice that it does not work and did not let me choose another card, a PCMCIA 3com card I have. b) after the reboot, my settings were lost, and I could not c) ...come back to the installation step for choosing the ethernet card!!! This was very, very annyoing. I switched to another console and installed the PCMCIA card manually. It worked, but imagine a situation like this: the alternative card requires some kernel modification or installing a different version of the kernel, and I need to reboot -- will the installer start again after the reboot? Or can I restart it manually? A possibility to get back to the initial settings would be great. Finally, I am no linux wizard, and though I was able to configure the network manually, I was not able to configure the DHCP client, so I had to put in static settings. What if I did not know them and had to rely on the DHCP client? I would have been totally lost. *AND* I could not check what is wrong, because the basic installation does not contain ssh nor a simple text browser (lynx, links, w3m) --- I mean, come on. Those things are not huge but the impact of their absence is. Nowadays a system is not working if it lacks ssh (where can you log in using telnet? Surely, not a single one of my machines). Hey, ssh is not even contained in the default package selection later on!!! Speaking of liver -- package selection. Sorry, but the installer does not even *ask* whether to start all those services it has installed. I mean, hello: I want to have netatalk "just in case", but starting it as a default is, well, not a good idea. Not to mention inetd samba apache2 god knows what else. I suggest to add an additional installation step asking for services which should be started, and which not. What was finally a bugger to install -- well, XFree. Sorry, guys, it just doesn't work. The installer asks for some rudimentary settings (like screen resolution) and then ignores them. I have installed gpm and effectively screwed up something -- mouse worked or not more or less randomly until I have removed gpm. I mean, come on. A working mouse is the least I expect from a basic install. xf86cfg writes (as a default, when started from the console) the settings not in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, and it took me a little while to notice why my settings remain with no effect. Yeah, I know, he asks me for the file to write the settings to (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config) but I thought that /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is a symlink to that file. I am used to the comfortable and userfriendly SaX (from SuSE) -- take a look at it, because besides being well-tought it helps you much in configuring XFree by guessing a lot of settings pretty well (as opposed to your configurator and xf86cfg). By the way -- xf86cfg cannot be used w/o a mouse with my laptop. It just ain't physically possible to hold a mouse button down and move it to choose a menu entry using a laptop keyboard. At least in my Thinkpad x20. (or maybe I am dumb) Ah, and by the way -- I am by no means a KDE user (Windowmaker is my current choice), but I was not able to start KDE -- it just hangs there with a grey screen and a lonely cursor in the middle of it. Ah, yes, it did ask me for personalization settings. It suggested Zimbabwe as my current location. I know Poland is also pretty far from the center of the World, but I did choose "Warsaw/Poland", german keyboard and US English language during the installation and I expect this settings to be default during all further personalisations/customizations etc. Furthermore, using xf86cfg I managed to kill my XFree. Well, not directly, but there was no keyboard access, so I could not change to another console reboot kill Xwindows kill gdm Remember that sshd is not started by default, not even installed by default? Well, I did install it, so I could log into my machine and kill X from there. But I think you see the problem here. My suggestion would be: ask the user whether he wants to start gdm/xdm right away. But otherwise it was not all that bad -- note that I am much spoiled by the quality of SuSE installers (I'm not talking about the quality of the system here, just the quality of the installer). Regards, j. -- Koniec i bomba, a kto czytal ten traba -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
