If anyone is interested, there are now packages and source for apt-indicator (for Sarge) available here:
https://jason.xc.net/content/linux/debian/apt-indicator/ The only big TODO left is autostart under Gnome. Autostart for KDE works; for Gnome use Debian Menu -> Apps -> System -> System Update Monitor. Jason On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 07:44:38PM +0000, Jason Wies wrote: > The Debian security team does a great job of providing updated > packages in a timely manner to address any security problems in stable > releases. > > However, there is no simple way of taking advantage of this fact and > staying up-to-date using the default Gnome or KDE installations > currently provided with Sarge. > > The only available option currently is Synaptic, which, while a great > piece of software, is buried in the menu and offers a > not-so-convenient 5-click upgrade procedure (in it's default mode at > least, which is what is available from the menu). > > Luckily, on my quest to remedy this situation, I found two applets > that are already written that address this problem. Both check for > APT updates at regular intervals and rely on Synaptic to do the actual > upgrade. Here are the pros and cons of each: > > apt-watch (http://alioth.debian.org/projects/apt-watch/): > Pros: > - Written by a DD (Daniel Burrows) > - Already packaged and in Debian > - Uses a user-to-root helper by default (although not > su-to-root as it should) > - Allows for separating security updates from other updates > Cons: > - Ugly, non-intuitive icons > - Only offers Daily and Weekly time options > - Download Upgrades menu option doesn't work (but is not > really necessary) > - Doesn't work with KDE > > apt-indicator (http://apt-indicator.sourceforge.net/): > Pros: > - Visually pleasing, intuitive icons > - Lists packages that are available for upgrade without > having to launch Synaptic > - Allows any kind of time setting > - Works with Gnome and KDE > Cons: > - Wasn't made for Debian (but works anyway) > - Doesn't use user-to-root by default (requires patch) > > > My preference after having evaluated both is definitely apt-indicator. > Overall it is more intuitive and easy to use, offers all the features > that are needed, and supports both Gnome and KDE. > > For those who want to try apt-indicator under testing, here is the > quick guide: > > - Download: > > http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/apt-indicator/apt-indicator-0.0.4rc2.tar.bz2 > > - Apply the attached patch. > > - Install the build dependencies (need g++, etc. as well): > qt3-dev-tools libqt3-dev libapt-pkg-dev libqt3-mt-dev help2man > xsltproc docbook-xsl > > - make && make install > > - Run 'apt-indicator' under Gnome or KDE > > - If your system is already up-to-date with testing and you want to > downgrade a package to test the update, here is a good one currently > (install 0.90.0-3): > ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-system-tools/ > > Work left to do: > - Fix run_program.cpp to properly work with any command > - Look into dist_upgrade.cpp:177 APT_UPDATE_ASSERT call > - Figure out if the XSL stylesheet we have (for the docs) is > the one it expects > - Make sure Sarge's Synaptic supports --update-mode > - Add an option for Synaptic's --non-interactive mode > - Package it > > I'm going to keep working on it and I'll try to have a package for it > soon. It would be nice to know if there is enough interest in this > feature to get it into Sarge, or if it is too late to be adding new > software (even security-related software) into the testing process at > this point. > > Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

