If anyone is interested, there are now packages and source for
apt-indicator (for Sarge) available here:

https://jason.xc.net/content/linux/debian/apt-indicator/

The only big TODO left is autostart under Gnome.  Autostart for KDE
works; for Gnome use Debian Menu -> Apps -> System -> System Update
Monitor.

Jason

On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 07:44:38PM +0000, Jason Wies wrote:
> The Debian security team does a great job of providing updated
> packages in a timely manner to address any security problems in stable
> releases.
> 
> However, there is no simple way of taking advantage of this fact and
> staying up-to-date using the default Gnome or KDE installations
> currently provided with Sarge.
> 
> The only available option currently is Synaptic, which, while a great
> piece of software, is buried in the menu and offers a
> not-so-convenient 5-click upgrade procedure (in it's default mode at
> least, which is what is available from the menu).
> 
> Luckily, on my quest to remedy this situation, I found two applets
> that are already written that address this problem.  Both check for
> APT updates at regular intervals and rely on Synaptic to do the actual
> upgrade.  Here are the pros and cons of each:
> 
> apt-watch (http://alioth.debian.org/projects/apt-watch/):
> Pros:
>       - Written by a DD (Daniel Burrows)
>       - Already packaged and in Debian
>       - Uses a user-to-root helper by default (although not
>         su-to-root as it should)
>       - Allows for separating security updates from other updates
> Cons:
>       - Ugly, non-intuitive icons
>       - Only offers Daily and Weekly time options
>       - Download Upgrades menu option doesn't work (but is not
>         really necessary)
>       - Doesn't work with KDE
> 
> apt-indicator (http://apt-indicator.sourceforge.net/):
> Pros:
>       - Visually pleasing, intuitive icons
>       - Lists packages that are available for upgrade without
>         having to launch Synaptic
>       - Allows any kind of time setting
>       - Works with Gnome and KDE
> Cons:
>       - Wasn't made for Debian (but works anyway)
>       - Doesn't use user-to-root by default (requires patch)
> 
> 
> My preference after having evaluated both is definitely apt-indicator.
> Overall it is more intuitive and easy to use, offers all the features
> that are needed, and supports both Gnome and KDE.
> 
> For those who want to try apt-indicator under testing, here is the
> quick guide:
> 
> - Download:
>     
> http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/apt-indicator/apt-indicator-0.0.4rc2.tar.bz2
> 
> - Apply the attached patch.
> 
> - Install the build dependencies (need g++, etc. as well):
>     qt3-dev-tools libqt3-dev libapt-pkg-dev libqt3-mt-dev help2man
>     xsltproc docbook-xsl
> 
> - make && make install
> 
> - Run 'apt-indicator' under Gnome or KDE
> 
> - If your system is already up-to-date with testing and you want to
>   downgrade a package to test the update, here is a good one currently
>   (install 0.90.0-3):
>   ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-system-tools/
> 
> Work left to do:
>       - Fix run_program.cpp to properly work with any command
>       - Look into dist_upgrade.cpp:177 APT_UPDATE_ASSERT call
>       - Figure out if the XSL stylesheet we have (for the docs) is
>         the one it expects
>       - Make sure Sarge's Synaptic supports --update-mode
>       - Add an option for Synaptic's --non-interactive mode
>       - Package it
> 
> I'm going to keep working on it and I'll try to have a package for it
> soon. It would be nice to know if there is enough interest in this
> feature to get it into Sarge, or if it is too late to be adding new
> software (even security-related software) into the testing process at
> this point.
> 
> Jason


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