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Subject: vim-vimoutliner: When used in a terminal white on black,
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Package: vim-vimoutliner
Version: 0.3.3-2
Severity: important

 I use rxvt-unicode, but I have probed with aterm too. In a tty terminal
 there is no problem.

 Characteres in first level don't show. I supose because they are
 black, like background color on my terminal.

 Levels of other colors work well.

                                                        David


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ii  libpalm-perl                 1.3.0-4     Perl 5 modules for manipulating pd
ii  libxml-writer-perl           0.530-1     Perl module for writing XML docume
ii  perl                         5.8.4-6     Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
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This is what I've got from upstream:

    This is not a bug. The console is telling Vim that it has a
    light background. This happens automatically. I have found,
    on my systems, that Vim thinks the background is dark only
    when loaded from a text (VGA) console. When started from
    within and X terminal (xterm, eterm, Konsole, etc.), Vim
    thinks the background is light. So, in David's case, VO  is
    using the wrong colors because it Vim thinks is has a
    different background.

In other words, read :he 'background' and especially this 
sentence: "Vim tries to set the default value according to the 
terminal used. This will not always be correct." IIRC, vim looks 
into TERM environmental variable. If it is "linux" then the dark 
background is used, if it is "xterm" then the light one. I 
wouldn't mess with TERM (many other programs rely on it being 
set correctly), but read a discussion in help and set it 
correctly in ~/.vimrc (or ~/.gvimrc).

So, from the VO strict point of view, you have misconfigured vim 
(because 'background' variable does not follow the reality) and 
I do not think VO should do something about that. As far as 
mentioning this into README.Debian -- this file is supposed to 
be about distribution and packaging specific details. I do not 
see any point in copying there information already available in 
vim's help. If upstream wants to make some note in README, it is 
his thing, but as far as this poor Debian maintainer is 
concerned, there is nothing I should do about this issue.

        Best,

                Matej


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