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Package: r-cran-rcmdr
Version: 1.6-0-2
Severity: wishlist

On first start of Rcmdr after installation, I was presented with a notification
box with the following:

 The following packages used by Rcmdr are missing:
  leaps, Hmisc, aplpack
 Without these packages, some features will not be available.
 Install these packages?
 [Yes] [No]

I selected no, as I am usually not fond of pulling in libraries outside of the
system package manager.

r-cran-hmisc is available in the Debian repository and a manual install of this
package removes Hmisc from the warning notification, so a recommends (or
depends) for r-cran-hmisc should be included.

apt-cache searches for 'leaps' and 'aplpack' don't return any results, so it
would be nice for these libraries to be packaged for Debian, if they are not
included in some other R library - if they are, please recommend/depend on
those packages as well.

-- 
Kind regards,
Michael

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (700, 'testing'), (300, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages r-cran-rcmdr depends on:
ii  libc6                         2.11.2-7   Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  r-base-core                   2.11.1-6   GNU R core of statistical computat
ii  r-cran-abind                  1.1.0-4    GNU R abind multi-dimensional arra
ii  r-cran-car                    2.0-2-1    GNU R Companion to Applied Regress
ii  r-cran-effects                2.0.10-1   GNU R graphical and tabular effect
ii  r-cran-lmtest                 0.9.27-1   GNU R package for diagnostic check
ii  r-cran-mgcv                   1.6-2-1    GNU R package for multiple paramet
ii  r-cran-multcomp               1.1-7-1    GNU R package for multiple compari
ii  r-cran-mvtnorm                0.9-92-1   GNU R package to compute multivari
ii  r-cran-relimp                 1.0-1-3    GNU R package for inference on rel
ii  r-cran-rgl                    0.91-1     GNU R package for three-dimensiona
ii  r-cran-sm                     2.2-4.1-1  GNU R package for kernel smoothing
ii  r-cran-strucchange            1.4-1-1    GNU R package for structural chang

r-cran-rcmdr recommends no packages.

Versions of packages r-cran-rcmdr suggests:
pn  r-cran-rodbc                  <none>     (no description available)

-- no debconf information



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Hi Michael,

Thanks for taking the time to write a bugreport.

I will try to explain why I am closing this bugreport below.

On 13 November 2010 at 13:41, Michael Shuler wrote:
| Package: r-cran-rcmdr
| Version: 1.6-0-2
| Severity: wishlist
|
| On first start of Rcmdr after installation, I was presented with a 
notification
| box with the following:
| 
|  The following packages used by Rcmdr are missing:
|   leaps, Hmisc, aplpack
|  Without these packages, some features will not be available.
|  Install these packages?
|  [Yes] [No]
| 
| I selected no, as I am usually not fond of pulling in libraries outside of the
| system package manager.
| 
| r-cran-hmisc is available in the Debian repository and a manual install of 
this
| package removes Hmisc from the warning notification, so a recommends (or
| depends) for r-cran-hmisc should be included.

Added in my package sources. The next r-cran-rcmdr will have that.
 
| apt-cache searches for 'leaps' and 'aplpack' don't return any results, so it
| would be nice for these libraries to be packaged for Debian, if they are not
| included in some other R library - if they are, please recommend/depend on
| those packages as well.

I you find a maintainer, maybe.  

If you look at http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=edd&comaint=yes you
will see that my package count is now at 128.  Quite literally a dozen or so
of these packages were added because Rcmdr at some point or other dependent
upon them.  

Rcmdr changed over the years from 'hard' Depends on many package to much
softer run-time detection which is better. What Rcmdr upstream now does is
much better:

Depends: R (>= 2.6.0), tcltk, grDevices, utils, car (>= 2.0-0),
Suggests: abind, aplpack, colorspace, effects (>= 1.0-7), foreign,
        grid, Hmisc, lattice, leaps, lmtest, MASS, mgcv, multcomp (>=
        0.991-2), nlme, nnet, relimp, rgl, RODBC

Only car [r-cran-car] is needed as a Depends, the rest depends on how you use
it.  

There is simply no way to manually maintain all the possible depends for core
packages of the 2500+ CRAN packages.  I am involved with the cran2deb effort
so one day we may have full .deb repos.

In the meantime, do what everybody else and install missing packages in
/usr/local/lib/R/site-library.  Or become a DM and package the missing
one. It is not hard. [ That said, I am not always happy with fellow DDs/DMs
who adopt some r-cran-* package and then let them become stale.  For that, I
actually prefer /usr/local/lib/R/site-library and a daily call to
~/bin/update.r (from the littler package examples/) ].

On 13 November 2010 at 13:56, Michael Shuler wrote:
| I see there is an ITP for r-cran-aplpack - #588924

Sure, but there is no firm relationship between ITP and packages actually
appearing.

Dirk

| 
| -- 
| Kind regards,
| Michael
| 
| -- System Information:
| Debian Release: squeeze/sid
|   APT prefers testing
|   APT policy: (700, 'testing'), (300, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
| Architecture: i386 (i686)
| 
| Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
| Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
| Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
| 
| Versions of packages r-cran-rcmdr depends on:
| ii  libc6                         2.11.2-7   Embedded GNU C Library: Shared 
lib
| ii  r-base-core                   2.11.1-6   GNU R core of statistical 
computat
| ii  r-cran-abind                  1.1.0-4    GNU R abind multi-dimensional 
arra
| ii  r-cran-car                    2.0-2-1    GNU R Companion to Applied 
Regress
| ii  r-cran-effects                2.0.10-1   GNU R graphical and tabular 
effect
| ii  r-cran-lmtest                 0.9.27-1   GNU R package for diagnostic 
check
| ii  r-cran-mgcv                   1.6-2-1    GNU R package for multiple 
paramet
| ii  r-cran-multcomp               1.1-7-1    GNU R package for multiple 
compari
| ii  r-cran-mvtnorm                0.9-92-1   GNU R package to compute 
multivari
| ii  r-cran-relimp                 1.0-1-3    GNU R package for inference on 
rel
| ii  r-cran-rgl                    0.91-1     GNU R package for 
three-dimensiona
| ii  r-cran-sm                     2.2-4.1-1  GNU R package for kernel 
smoothing
| ii  r-cran-strucchange            1.4-1-1    GNU R package for structural 
chang
| 
| r-cran-rcmdr recommends no packages.
| 
| Versions of packages r-cran-rcmdr suggests:
| pn  r-cran-rodbc                  <none>     (no description available)
| 
| -- no debconf information
| 
| 

-- 
Dirk Eddelbuettel | [email protected] | http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com


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