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From: Lupe Christoph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: udev: Conflicts makes kernel 2.4 users choose between Gnome and 
hotplugged
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Package: udev
Version: 0.076-4
Severity: normal

The recently introduced conflict with hotplug broke USB support for me.
On a notebook, PCMCIA would be gone, too, etc.

The 2.4 kernel needs hotplug.

When I try to install it back, I loose Gnome:

Investigating udev
Package udev has broken dep on hotplug
  Considering hotplug 9999 as a solution to udev 2
  Removing udev rather than change hotplug
Investigating hal
Package hal has broken dep on udev
  Considering udev 2 as a solution to hal 2
  Removing hal rather than change udev
Investigating gnome-volume-manager
Package gnome-volume-manager has broken dep on hal
  Considering hal 2 as a solution to gnome-volume-manager 2
  Removing gnome-volume-manager rather than change hal
Investigating gnome-desktop-environment
Package gnome-desktop-environment has broken dep on gnome-volume-manager
  Considering gnome-volume-manager 2 as a solution to gnome-desktop-environment 
1
  Removing gnome-desktop-environment rather than change gnome-volume-manager
Investigating gnome
Package gnome has broken dep on gnome-desktop-environment
  Considering gnome-desktop-environment 1 as a solution to gnome 0
  Removing gnome rather than change gnome-desktop-environment
Done
Suggested packages:
  ifrename
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gnome gnome-desktop-environment gnome-volume-manager hal udev
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  hotplug
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 5 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

I'm filing this as a policy violation because I can't believe the DDs
are trying to force everybody to use a 2.6 kernel.

-- Package-specific info:
-- /etc/udev/rules.d/:
/etc/udev/rules.d/:
total 0
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 20 2005-09-17 10:03 020_permissions.rules -> 
../permissions.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 12 2005-11-01 09:46 050_hal-plugdev.rules -> 
../hal.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 19 2005-09-17 10:03 cd-aliases.rules -> 
../cd-aliases.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 20 2005-09-17 10:03 compat-full.rules -> 
../compat-full.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 14 2005-09-17 10:03 devfs.rules -> ../devfs.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 19 2005-09-17 10:03 z20_persistent.rules -> 
../persistent.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 12 2005-09-17 10:03 z50_run.rules -> ../run.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 16 2005-11-04 08:25 z55_hotplug.rules -> 
../hotplug.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 19 2005-08-20 09:34 z60_alsa-utils.rules -> 
../alsa-utils.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 17 2005-09-17 10:03 z70_hotplugd.rules -> 
../hotplugd.rules

-- /sys/:

-- Kernel configuration:
 init_tmpfs not present.
 isapnp_init not present.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (100, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.4.27-lpc.7.k7
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

Versions of packages udev depends on:
ii  initscripts                   2.86.ds1-4 Standard scripts needed for bootin
ii  libc6                         2.3.5-8    GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libselinux1                   1.26-1     SELinux shared libraries
ii  lsb-base                      3.0-12     Linux Standard Base 3.0 init scrip
ii  makedev                       2.3.1-79   creates device files in /dev
ii  sed                           4.1.2-8    The GNU sed stream editor

udev recommends no packages.

-- no debconf information

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To: Lupe Christoph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bug#343053: udev: Conflicts makes kernel 2.4 users choose between 
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On Dec 12, Lupe Christoph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm filing this as a policy violation because I can't believe the DDs
> are trying to force everybody to use a 2.6 kernel.
You'd better do, and you even need a recent one...
Maybe it will be possible in the future (but I highly doubt that it will
be worth the effort), but currently udev cannot co-exist with hotplug.

--=20
ciao,
Marco

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