On Wednesday 16 October 2013 23:40:30 Francesco Poli wrote:
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> > Yup, should have been wishlist from starters, my bad on that one.
> 
> No hay problema, it was easy enough to fix!  ;-)

:-)

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> Mmmmh, to be frank, I am a bit hesitant about implementing support for
> an undocumented APT configuration option...
> Maybe we should first wait for this option to be (stabilized and)
> properly documented: please file a bug report against package apt to
> request the addition of a suitable section to the apt.conf(5) man page,
> if you feel like it.

Totally understandable. I'm filling the bug, CCing this one. Saddly 
considering the number of open bugs apt has... :-/

> > > Please let me understand: what do you need to do in your network in
> > > order to access http://bugs.debian.org, for instance with a web browser?
> > > Do you need to go through a proxy? Or can you also access it directly?
> > > Which proxy do you need to use, if any? Not acng, I suppose...
> > > Is this proxy auto-detected somehow? How?
> > 
> > Manually configure http://proxy.example.com:8080/. Interestingly enough
> > specifying acng before calling apt-get/aptitude will work. Possibly acng
> > detects that the request is not for a package and delivers it to the main
> > proxy, which it also has configured.
> 
> This means that apt-listbugs could use the acng proxy, if it knew about
> the ProxyAutoDetect option.
> But also that apt-listbugs may well use the main proxy, just like your
> web browsers have to do.
> Is this correct?

Correct.

> Please note that you can set the Acquire::HTTP::Proxy::bugs.debian.org
> option in order to specify a proxy to be used by apt-listbugs.
> Is that enough to solve your issue?
> If I understand correctly, you have to manually set the main proxy for
> web browsers anyway: how is that different from setting it manually for
> apt-listbugs?
> Are you just trying to reduce the number of manual settings for a box
> that switches from a network to another with different proxies?

Once again: correct. The good side of squid-deb-proxy-client is that it 
enables the autodetection of acng. For web browsers things are almost as easy: 
I use KDE and set the proxy globally, and ask web browsers to use the system's 
settings. So all I need to do if a few clicks every time a laptop changes 
networks.

I used to switch proxies by hand... but I really want to avoid that as much as 
possible.
 
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 12:49:54 -0300 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Please note that even passing LANG=C apt-listbug messages are kept in
> > es_AR.UTF-8
> 
> Did you try with LC_ALL=C ?
> Maybe you have LC_ALL=es_AR.UTF-8 and that takes precedence over LANG,
> if I recall correctly (I don't remember whether this is a bug or a
> feature!). Unsetting LC_ALL and then setting LANG=C should also work...
> Aaargh! What a mess! Where is all this documented?!?

:-) Will try, just to now what happens

> Anyway, no need to re-send the debug output: the tests you documented
> in your latest message are perfectly clear and seem to confirm that
> apt-listbugs is able to work both through your main proxy and through
> your acng proxy.
> We just have to figure out the best way for you to tell apt-listbugs to
> use one of the two proxies...

Excellent :)

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Vió, buteó y andó

Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
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