On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 at 13:24:34 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Two possible outcomes then
> 
> 1/ Make systemd recommend/depend on dbus (recommend would probably be
> sufficient)

According to the initial bug report, the base system is installed without
Recommends, so no, Recommends is not sufficient unless we arrange for d-i to
install dbus some other way. systemd already indirectly Recommends dbus,
for instance:

systemd --R-> libpam-systemd --D-> dbus
systemd --P-D-> libdbus-1-3 --R-> dbus

> 2/ Make logind talk via a private dbus socket to systemd (not sure if
> that is feasible / doable).

Just to complete the options:

3/ Waste a small amount of memory by pre-running getty@tty2 to getty@tty6,
like sysvinit would:

/etc/systemd/system% ls -l getty.target.wants
total 24
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Aug  6 12:41 getty@tty1.service -> 
/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Apr 27 11:43 getty@tty2.service -> 
/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Apr 27 11:43 getty@tty3.service -> 
/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Apr 27 11:43 getty@tty4.service -> 
/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Apr 27 11:43 getty@tty5.service -> 
/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Apr 27 11:43 getty@tty6.service -> 
/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service

(The symlink for tty1 is currently shipped with systemd; the others are
a local change on my laptop.)

    S


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