Le 10/08/2016 à 08:26, Carsten Schoenert a écrit :
> Hello Jean-Philippe,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 10:45:35PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
>>> Please follow the hints from the wiki site to create a proper gdb log.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.debian.org/Icedove#Debugging
>>
>> Well this page is interesting but very complicated for me. I'm not a
>> dev. I can help with instructions to track some bug, some traces, but I
>> can't try to get all introduced traces without knowing what is useful or
>> not. I'M unable to know exactly what to trace.
>>
>> To start with something, I installed icedove-dbg, I ran the suggested
>> command and follo9ed gdb process. In the command, I removed LANG= (so it
>> runs in fr_FR.utf8 locale), and --safe-mode. It doesn't segfaults in
>> safe-mode and with LANG=
>>
>> Here's the full log.
> 
> the log is fine and is showing what I expected. So you've done
> everything well and correctly.
> The only thing what makes my life harder here is the LANG environment.
> As you wrote you don't have done any unsetting here the system will use
> your prefered language and that is French. But I'm and most of the other
> guys on the Icedove packaging don't speak or can read the french
> language.  That's the reason for the 'LANG= ' at the beginning of the
> command line.  So please use the 'LANG= ' variable the next time you
> make a gdb log. That's common to all gdb logs for the BTS.

Actually I guessed this. :) I didn't use it as with it, I didn't
reproduce the bug as obviously as without it. But I understood the
purpose of it. Anyway, if you need me to translate some things, tell me,
I'll do it.

> And yes, bug triaging is most of the time difficult and time consuming.
> So it needs it's time to get similar with the routines and workflows on
> that. For me it's in the end more fun to see if some challanges could be
> solved than frustration, otherwise I wouldn't do that at all.

Sure. Glad to help in such tasks.

> [...] 
>> That's right these bugs are closely mine, especially the last one. Note
>> I don't have iceowl enabled, but it's installed however.
> 
> The problem is not iceowl-extension or calendar-google-provider or any
> other XUL based extension. The problem is the Icedove binary itself that
> is executing stuff in machine code called by the extensions.
> 
>> What makes me write here (but maybe we should merge bug reports), is
>> that I didn't experience this with previous release (45.2). In other
>> words, I didn't reproduce above bugs, which arrive now after upgrade.
> 
> I will merge the bugs together.
> It's easier to clone existing bugs into two or more reports than
> coordinate up to five existings bugs like here. We have a great bug
> reporting and tracking engine, but it has some limitations (like every
> helping tool).

Sure. You're right. Make me Cc of merge so that I can test eventual
upgrades, etc.

> [...] 
>> I understand and would be glad to help. Just I need to be oriented, as I
>> don't know exactly the differences with Thunderbird, if some Thunderbird
>> come back is planned as Firefox, and 9here to search in a such big
>> project. What I caN do here is reproduce, test, send precise reports,
>> test packaging, and dialog.
> 
> Fine. That's excately what we need as legwork from the users that
> reporting bugs and issues. :-)
> And yes, there will be Thunderbird back in Debian.

ok nice. I stay available for any help.

Best regards,

> Regards
> Carsten
> 

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