On Tue, 2017-02-14 at 22:47 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Hallo,
> * Patrick Ohly [Sun, Feb 12 2017, 02:24:17PM]:
> > On Sun, 2017-02-12 at 11:27 +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > > Package: sync-ui
> > > Version: 1.5.2-1
> > > Severity: important
> > > 
> > > Dear Maintainer,
> > > 
> > >    * What led up to the situation?
> > > 
> > > Attempted to download contacts from a phone (Android 6, Samsung A310F).
> > 
> > Can you check whether the phone really supports SyncML? See how to do
> 
> I thought SyncML was an emerging standard in the last decade and
> in 2017 it's an obligatory feature.

The focus seems more on cloud synchronization these days.

> > that with hcitool and sdptool under the "Troubleshooting" section from
> > https://syncevolution.org/wiki/sync-your-phone-bluetooth
> 
> Checked that. Seems not to be supported.

Bummer. Do you know how car integration works? Does the car deal with
the phone over Bluetooth (pairing and all), or did you install a special
app?

> > A search shows that Samsung claims SyncML support for the phone, but it
> > remains open whether that is SyncML over Bluetooth (a rare feature these
> > days) or a SyncML client for a SyncML server (also a dying feature, but
> > a bit more likely).
> 
> Well, ok, that might explain it. But could you please create a
> messagebox saying "no supported SyncML or CalDAV device found" or
> something like that rather than keeping the user look stupid?

There should have been something, so this bug may be valid.

However, there's no special "you seem to want to use this phone but it
doesn't support SyncML" error handling, because the UI doesn't know
which device you want to use. What it can do is find devices that have
been paired and which advertise SyncML support. Your phone doesn't seem
to do that, if you ran sdptool against it and did not find a SYNCML
service.

> Comes from a lot of facepalming. My car supports my phones contacts
> quite well. And all Mercedes cars I get to drive sometimes almost
> perfectly. But in the Linux land, well, when I apt-cache-search for
> "bluetooth contact" the only thing I find is syncevolution and sync-ui
> and it's apparently totally useless with modern phones.

Some people still use older feature phones with it. Others synchronize
against a CalDAV/CardDAV service.

Lack of local synchronization is basically a result of device
manufacturers no longer supporting it, and customers not caring enough
to complain. Not much that can be done about either of these.

-- 
Best Regards, Patrick Ohly

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