Am 31.01.2018 um 21:09 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 08:56:40PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Am 31.01.2018 um 20:13 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: >>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 06:24:41PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: >>>> Am 31.01.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: >>>> >>>>> This is all not related to my issue, that while having udev rules >>>>> to set permissions I do not get them. >>>> >>>> Then I have no idea what your problem is. >>> >>> The problem is fixed if I remove consolekit and install >>> libpam-systemd >> >> Hm, right. On any system but a barebones server or container, you should >> have libpam-systemd installed. That's why it has priority standard and >> is recommended by systemd. >> >> consolekit should be uninstalled. I doesn't do anything useful anymore >> since jessie. I wasn't aware that it is actually harmful these days, though. >> Maybe we should add a Conflicts somewhere to force its removal. Thoughts? > > So should conselekit be removed from the archive (on the linux > arches)?
I think so. I already had such a change made years ago but never uploaded that to the archive (at that time, we didn't have sourceful uploads, so this would have been tricky, as I would have needed a kfreebsd build system). > And if so, why not a Depends instead of a Recommends? You mean in systemd? Maybe we should. So far we were overly cautious to not upset anyone and enforce anything unless absolutely necessary (as said, there are use cases, like single-user bare-bones installations where you don't strictly need libpam-systemd so should have the opportunity to uninstall it). History has taught me though, that there are much more users who have disabled Recommends and ran into issues because libpam-systemd was not installed. (libpam-systemd is responsible to register a logind session when you actually login. This is then used by systemd-logind to apply devices permissions and sorts of other stuff). Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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