Am 31.01.2018 um 22:18 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 09:24:44PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Am 31.01.2018 um 21:09 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: >>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 08:56:40PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: >>>> Am 31.01.2018 um 20:13 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: >>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 06:24:41PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: >>>>>> Am 31.01.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is all not related to my issue, that while having udev rules >>>>>>> to set permissions I do not get them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then I have no idea what your problem is. >>>>> >>>>> The problem is fixed if I remove consolekit and install >>>>> libpam-systemd >>>> >>>> Hm, right. On any system but a barebones server or container, you should >>>> have libpam-systemd installed. That's why it has priority standard and >>>> is recommended by systemd. >>>> >>>> consolekit should be uninstalled. I doesn't do anything useful anymore >>>> since jessie. I wasn't aware that it is actually harmful these days, >>>> though. >>>> Maybe we should add a Conflicts somewhere to force its removal. Thoughts? >>> >>> So should conselekit be removed from the archive (on the linux >>> arches)? >> >> I think so. I already had such a change made years ago but never >> uploaded that to the archive (at that time, we didn't have sourceful >> uploads, so this would have been tricky, as I would have needed a >> kfreebsd build system). >> >>> And if so, why not a Depends instead of a Recommends? >> >> You mean in systemd? Maybe we should. So far we were overly cautious to >> not upset anyone and enforce anything unless absolutely necessary (as >> said, there are use cases, like single-user bare-bones installations >> where you don't strictly need libpam-systemd so should have the >> opportunity to uninstall it). >> History has taught me though, that there are much more users who have >> disabled Recommends and ran into issues because libpam-systemd was not >> installed. >> (libpam-systemd is responsible to register a logind session when you >> actually login. This is then used by systemd-logind to apply devices >> permissions and sorts of other stuff). > > I didn't check why, but when I removed consolekit, libpam-systemd > was installed instead. This seems to be why: > lightdm Depends libpam-systemd | consolekit > > Maybe lightdm should drop the alternative?
That should definitely go, at least for the linux part. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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