locales-all got installed by this morning's full-upgrade, but the issue
is the same.
I think my problem is having an /etc/locale.conf file with a bunch of
LC_ variables set. I don't know where that file came from, perhaps a
previous installation that got copied into the new one.
Hank
On 2020-07-24 11:39 a.m., Osamu Aoki wrote:
Oops,
I think your problem goes out if you install the locales-all package
I forgot to ask:
$ dpkg -l locales*
If you didn't install locales-all package or generate fr_CA.UTF-8
locale data manually by running the following
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
You get English ... didn't I mention this ... Yes:
For fine details of the locale configuration, see Section 8.4, “The
locale”.
You should have clicked there to read Section 8.4. But not so obvious
... Now I know ...
Ububtu and Old Debian's locales are like locales-all on recent Debian.
Current Debian's locales are small and requires user to configure it
manually while locales-all is huge and pre-confugured
Maybe it is good idea to guide people to the locales-all package
On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 09:38 -0400, Hank Knox wrote:
Thank you for taking the time to respond to this.
I was reading the Debian Reference shortly after a clean install of
bullseye. (It's a very useful document, BTW, thanks for doing it.)
However I have been running Debian for years and migrated some
config
files over from a previous installation so perhaps my setup does not
reflect the usual defaults.
Here is the info you asked for:
hank@SunVillage:~$ locale
LANG=en_CA.utf8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="en_CA.utf8"
LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="en_CA.utf8"
LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_CA.utf8"
LC_PAPER=en_CA.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_CA.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_CA.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_CA.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_CA.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
hank@SunVillage:~$ echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP='XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP'
XFCE=XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
I am not sure what is setting the various LC_ variables. I grepped
my
home directory, /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile and the only
result
that references LC_ is
".xsession-errors:dbus-update-activation-environment: setting
LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8" in my home directory; there are similar entries
for
all the other LC_ variables in my environment. Is there some
configuration of dbus that sets those variables? If so, I don't know
where that is configured. I fear I have enough Linux experience to
get
in trouble but not enough to be really knowledgeable!
Best,
Hank Knox
On 2020-07-23 10:44 p.m., Osamu Aoki wrote:
Hmmm...
I agree this is probably not a bug but a user support problem. Let
me
add a comment:
I chose to use $LANG to set the locale since that seems to be the
way
default install configures used by Debian system.
Hank, if you are facing this issue on some default install system
without violating my recommendation, let is know your desktop etc.
Please run the following to check:
$ locale
$ echo "XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP='$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP'"
Report it back to this bug
Hank, anyway did you read on to the last part of 1.5.2 first:
See locale(5) and locale(7) for "$LANG" and related environment
variables.
[Note] Note
I recommend you to configure the system environment just by the
"$LANG" variable and to stay away from "$LC_*" variables unless
it
is absolutely needed.
I am pretty sure your system doesn't follow my recommendation.
FYI: locale(7) describes:
1. If there is a non-null environment variable LC_ALL, the
value of
LC_ALL is used.
2. If an environment variable with the same name as one of the
categories above exists and is non-null, its value is used for
that
category.
3. If there is a non-null environment variable LANG, the value
of LANG
is used.
