Hi,

Samuel Thibault (2024-10-08):
> Francois Mazen, le sam. 05 oct. 2024 15:27:28 +0200, a ecrit:
>> Package: python3-dogtail
>> Version: 1.0.0-3
>> Severity: grave
>> Justification: renders package unusable
>
> It's not worse than before: you can use it on Xorg.
>
>> It looks like the ponytail python package is required. According to the 
>> source
>> code [1], this happens with Wayland only.
>
> Yes, dogtail was not really working under wayland before ponytail.
> dogtail version 1.0 makes progress in that regard.

Here's one data point FWIW.

At Tails, we have been using Dogtail since many years for automated
testing; since we switched to Wayland 2 years ago, we had to get used
to coping with the limitations of Dogtail in that environment (without
ponytail). I agree there are many such limitations so I understand why
you're saying it "was not really working". But for the record I would
like to say that even despite these limitations, Dogtail in Bookworm
is still super mega useful for us on Wayland. So if it stops working
in our context in Trixie, it will definitely be worse than before.

In our situation, we can't use it on X.Org: Tails relies on Wayland
and has no fallback to X.Org path. And even if it had, then we would
be testing a different thing than what most of our users use, which
would be less useful.

Thanks a lot for your work on Dogtail both upstream and in Debian :)

>> I can't find such ponytail package in Debian archive, and I found the gnome-
>> ponytail-daemon [2] project online but I'm not sure that's the correct 
>> upstream
>> source.
>> I understand that it should be packaged and added as a required dependency 
>> for
>> python3-dogtail?
>
> Yes. Contribution welcome ;)

I'll come back to it in a month or so to see if we can help. But if
anyone else has the skills & bandwidth, by all means, please go ahead
and don't wait for us.

Cheers,
-- 
intrigeri

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